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FLAYLOCK Steve
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Posted - 2013.08.07 18:34:00 -
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Fotm doesn't mean op. Just means it's popular. Kthxbye |
FLAYLOCK Steve
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:04:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Fotm doesn't mean op. Just means it's popular. Kthxbye You are on a roll today, aren't you stevie?
Helping my uncle re do the bathroom, in between shift I'm reading and is sad how people want everything nerfed. Like seriously, ccp has to do something about the game other worrying about people cried and start working overtime on hit detection and stuff like that. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:14:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
I was thinking give it some incentive to actually wanna hit direct hits. The fact is most people just aim for splash dmg and I think IMO that is exactly what is wrong with this gun. Splash damage should be a consolation prize not the main concern to the user. Bump the splash down to more like 2-3 meters 4-5 with Assault. You shouldn't be using something with the intention of not caring if you hit direct or not. It just seems rather pointless to me.
I'm sorry, but anyone who talks like this about the Mass Driver just has absolutely no clue what they're talking about. No, splash damage should not be a 'Consolation Prize'. Decent splash damage is the only reason anyone uses this weapon at all. If you were not able to kill people with the splash damage, no one would ever use the Mass Driver, period. No weapon should reward mediocre aim, period.
Mass driver requires more skill to use than a assault rifle. Just saying, don't troll you might fail. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:30:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Foley Jones wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:If that is actually true then the MD is definitely the FOTM......they have been using that gun exclusively since flaylock nerf.
Every time I see or play with one of these guys its all MD all the time. AH noob tubes no matter what you do! they will either be OP or UP there is no balanced DONT YOU LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!?????????? Well the problem is they can be balanced pretty easily......but people just hate it when their gun is balanced out...they prefer to play with weapons that are OP. And they will convince themselves its not OP by stating well it does have some drawbacks (as if to state that any weapon that is OP must mean it has absolutely no drawbacks). In reality the MD would be easy to balance and still maintain its effectiveness. Currently the AOE of 6-9 meters is just crazy. If that AOE is adjusted down to more reasonable levels then this gun would be balanced while still maintaining effectiveness. But as stated people dont want their OP weapon touched (thus why ppl still complain that flaylocks were not OP before  ). If AOE was reduced to somewhere between 4-4.5 for normal MD and 5-6 for assault MD....then the MD would still be very useful without being the freakin lob nade in this direction and hit enemy....no need to aim. I was thinking give it some incentive to actually wanna hit direct hits. The fact is most people just aim for splash dmg and I think IMO that is exactly what is wrong with this gun. Splash damage should be a consolation prize not the main concern to the user. Bump the splash down to more like 2-3 meters 4-5 with Assault. You shouldn't be using something with the intention of not caring if you hit direct or not. It just seems rather pointless to me. yea I am not sure if this was the point of this weapon....It would not be an area denial weapon with those kind of stats. LIke I said I am all for balancing. Some people like flaylock steve cant see weapon balance if it hit them upside the head. But at the same time you can go off the other side of the road and make the weapon worthless for its intended role. No it needs the splash dmg to fullfill its role....just not freakin 9 meters of splash dmg. If users dont want the splash dmg to be lower then the number or rounds in a clip needs to be lowered. Either one of those options would perfectly balance out the MD and still maintain its usefulness for its intended role.
Ha yea, I can't see weapon balance? Hmm okay. The way people are making it sound is like anything that kills them is op. There is no need to nerf a balanced weapon. Seriously, and 9 meters of splash damage is the proto assault md. Um proto level and it does less dmg . What's the big deal? I hardly see anyone use the assault mass driver. It's usually the level 3 mass driver. The exo or the proto mass driver which is the freedom. So again what's the issue? |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:58:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
I was thinking give it some incentive to actually wanna hit direct hits. The fact is most people just aim for splash dmg and I think IMO that is exactly what is wrong with this gun. Splash damage should be a consolation prize not the main concern to the user. Bump the splash down to more like 2-3 meters 4-5 with Assault. You shouldn't be using something with the intention of not caring if you hit direct or not. It just seems rather pointless to me.
I'm sorry, but anyone who talks like this about the Mass Driver just has absolutely no clue what they're talking about. No, splash damage should not be a 'Consolation Prize'. Decent splash damage is the only reason anyone uses this weapon at all. If you were not able to kill people with the splash damage, no one would ever use the Mass Driver, period. Exactly my point. You just proved me right GG. You guys only go after splash damage where it should be the other way around. Otherwise get rid of the direct damage than and only have splash damage. Once again, you've proven to me that you've never used a Mass Driver for any significant amount of time at all. The Mass Driver is not like an AR. You do not point-and-click, and get an instant automatic hit if you're on target. The projectiles have a long travel time and fire at an arc. Because of this, there is no way that anyone ever goes around getting 100% direct hits. Yes, I almost always go for splash damage because that is the only thing that is practical. But even then, at any significant distance, or anything other than the optimal situation for the MD, it is difficult to hit with the splash damage. So please just stop, all you're doing in continually proving how clueless you are about this situation. So in a close up CqC how are you having to worry about the arc and travel time.....? You make it sound like Mass Driver is only effective hiding up top. I see plenty of guys starting to run and gun with it. Some can do great others fail, much like anything else. The fact that we are starting to see all the flaylock bums move to Mass Driver is proof. After this cap you will see another increase in MD users. I bet you said the Flaylock was a balanced weapon too didn't ya?  You use the Flaylock and Massdriver cause you want a challenge right? Don't wanna just point and click like the "easy to use AR" right?
Um?
1. Flay lock is so useless now. They over did the nerf, all it needed was a damage nerf. You guys claim it needs to be a direct hit ...but um its a explosive. Explosives don't really kill a lot due to direct damage. It kills by splash or "shock wave". Just saying.
2. Using the mass driver in cqc is risky because you risk killing your self or hurting yourself thus increasing the risk of you dying.
3. People say you don't have to aim. Ha. Best one. So it magically follows you? Keep in mind we have to worry about elevation, area, distance. Height of the arc, ammo which is low as heck.
4. The farther the target the harder it is to hit.
5. It already has a slow rof and slow travel time.
Please stop crying its sad
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:stlcarlos98ir wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
I was thinking give it some incentive to actually wanna hit direct hits. The fact is most people just aim for splash dmg and I thinkO that is exactly what is wrong with this gun. Splash damage should be a consolation prize not the main concern to the user. Bump the splash down to more like 2-3 meters 4-5 with Assault. You shouldn't be using something with the intention of not caring if you hit direct or not. It just seems rather pointless to me.
I'm sorry, but anyone who talks like this about the Mass Driver just has absolutely no clue what they're talking about. No, splash damage should not be a 'Consolation Prize'. Decent splash damage is the only reason anyone uses this weapon at all. If you were not able to kill people with the splash damage, no one would ever use the Mass Driver, period. No weapon should reward mediocre aim, period. Mass driver requires more skill to use than a assault rifle. Just saying, don't troll you might fail. HAH! Don't kid yourself, I use the MD to relax, it's as easy to use as the AR, just takes a different type of skill.
HAH!
Don't kid yourself, I use the AR too, it's as easy to use as the MD, hardly takes any skill to use. just point and click, no matter the distance, elevation. I can even snipe with it, I'm as deadly with it than the mass driver. and im just using standard suits.... bpo from the elite pack. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:21:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Fotm doesn't mean op. Just means it's popular. Kthxbye Hence, why it is OP. It gets used too much all of the sudden. When nerfed it disappears mysteriously from the leet proto corps.
So you're saying the assault rifle is OP. Ah I understand. Every one know that the assault rifle is the flavor of dust. Sooooo yea your statement is invalid. I bet you that if people all the sudden start using the nova knife ( like myself ) and got good with them people would its OP and by your definition of OP you would agree that it's OP. understood |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Iroanaber wrote:[quote=FLAYLOCK Steve]Fotm doesn't mean op. Just means it's popular. Kthxbye ^[/qoute] Of all the CPM your opinion is the most worthless. TY for chiming in. I already explained myself on this notion. It was rather lengthy but I'll to try to TL;DR it. A good FOTM is something the players find a way to invalidate, not the developers.
So why don't you link me? Seems to me that they nerf anything that is used a lot. Which is wrong, i bet if the nova knife became fotm ccp will nerf. sad |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:40:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Fotm doesn't mean op. Just means it's popular. Kthxbye ^ Of all the CPM your opinion is the most worthless. TY for chiming in. I already explained myself on this notion. It was rather lengthy but I'll to try to TL;DR it. A good FOTM is something the players find a way to invalidate, not the developers. Forge guns should not be able to one hit kill from a top of a tower. Unless they are targeting a vehicle, getting one hit kills from beyond 50 meters should be very difficult. The amount of one hit killing in this game is too damn high.
Sigh not even gonna waste my time with you. But the amount of nerf threads and crying is tooooooooooo high
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