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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

I dunno how does !@#holes who constantly roll alts to pwn noobs in BA justified either? The current system testing means they're out of the BA in one fight most of the time. Making BA much longer helps these jerks much more than the rookies. There is a theory in Eve and its going to hold true here, anything designed to purposely help new or smaller groups of players is going to ultimately massively benefit the veteran and larger groups of players more so.

Between the two empty character slots and how long it took a good player to burn though the 20k wp with the 10 hour cool down you can do this near endlessly.

Currently there are three things players use to progress:
Actual Skill
Skill Level
Gear

BA barely provides enough training in Gear, or Skill Levels and in my honest opinion NEVER should be used as such. We can do this by well eliminating the use of Basic, Advanced, Prototype gear in BA. This will make the noob gankers less effective as well since they don't have access to the ability to widen the gap massively between themselves and new players, and lets face it, there is nearly absolutely to hand hold a player into increasing actual skill without pitting them against better players. The tutorials can only arm that player with the knowledge they need to improve but the player will have to do the improving himself in the wild, this is not something you can gain entirely by sitting at a desk writing about it.

BA should be used ultimately as an evaluation period for placement inside the matchmaking system Similar to the 5 placement fights Star Craft II uses. It shouldn't be used as a means of teaching players basics of the game, it should be a place of applying what they have been taught so far for the first time.

We need better NPE overall and something before the Academy, and a means of flagging an entire account of doing the BA before and skipping over it entirely so they would have to make new PSN alts to troll players at least.

As for the experiment and the sorts CCP needs to verify their theories, yes its bad to do this but then again the first BA was also an experiment and was supposed to be temporary. As for what next week's experiment is I don't know but this is all stuff to that can get done while waiting for the new stuff to make it in planned patch soon.


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Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2013.08.08 07:47:00 - [1] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: We could delete battle academy and go back to the days of not having it :P Either way the original 20k was apparently too much as well having new unique players quitting during that period. Honestly with only 400 WP you could also delete the battle academy even the 20K seemed low to me bu8t who cares for the new playerbase at all
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2013.08.08 09:30:00 - [2] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I dunno how does !@#holes who constantly roll alts to pwn noobs in BA justified either? The current system testing means they're out of the BA in one fight most of the time. Making BA much longer helps these jerks much more than the rookies. There is a theory in Eve and its going to hold true here, anything designed to purposely help new or smaller groups of players is going to ultimately massively benefit the veteran and larger groups of players more so. Between the two empty character slots and how long it took a good player to burn though the 20k wp with the 10 hour cool down you can do this near endlessly. Currently there are three things players use to progress: Actual Skill Skill Level Gear BA barely provides enough training in Gear, or Skill Levels and in my honest opinion NEVER should be used as such. We can do this by well eliminating the use of Basic, Advanced, Prototype gear in BA. This will make the noob gankers less effective as well since they don't have access to the ability to widen the gap massively between themselves and new players, and lets face it, there is nearly absolutely to hand hold a player into increasing actual skill without pitting them against better players. The tutorials can only arm that player with the knowledge they need to improve but the player will have to do the improving himself in the wild, this is not something you can gain entirely by sitting at a desk writing about it. BA should be used ultimately as an evaluation period for placement inside the matchmaking system Similar to the 5 placement fights Star Craft II uses. It shouldn't be used as a means of teaching players basics of the game, it should be a place of applying what they have been taught so far for the first time. We need better NPE overall and something before the Academy, and a means of flagging an entire account of doing the BA before and skipping over it entirely so they would have to make new PSN alts to troll players at least. As for the experiment and the sorts CCP needs to verify their theories, yes its bad to do this but then again the first BA was also an experiment and was supposed to be temporary. As for what next week's experiment is I don't know but this is all stuff to that can get done while waiting for the new stuff to make it in planned patch soon. So the solution to alt trolling in the academy where at least the skill and gear cap is not so dominant is to throw new chars directly into the proto stumping? That makes totally sense . Battle academy was not perfect but it was a place where new players were at least somewhat protected unless CCP manges to fix their matchmaking. The decision to throw throw low level low gear players into a pool with high level high gear players without fixing matchmaking is lets say astonishing....