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Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1639	Posted - 2013.08.06 07:27:00 - [1] - Quote People are even trying to stomp the academy now, pretty obvious when you end up against a group all using exo 5s and spamming like it was going out of style And since I know the question is coming Im in the academy on an alt and Im not spending a skill point til he gets out
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 2364	Posted - 2013.08.06 07:29:00 - [2] - Quote There were some idiots using core flaylocks all the time until they got nerfed as well.
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 813	Posted - 2013.08.06 07:47:00 - [3] - Quote Implement a battle system that separates the battles by the total meta number (all modules, weapons, equipment and suit meta added together) of a suit. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1050070#post1050070 Creating an academy only makes entering full combat more difficult. Anyone can make an alt and own any new player. Yes limiting SP in the academy helps but it doesn't stop a merc from skilling into one weapon and nothing else. This one weapon would give an advantage that a new player wouldn't have because they don't understand what is going on. My link above outlines a battle system that allows mercs to choose their difficulty, gives noobs a place to train, vets a place to fight and allows for testing of gear in a "controlled" environment. My numbers may need adjusting but that system will be one of the few that will work with this type of game.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 89	Posted - 2013.08.06 08:17:00 - [4] - Quote I know the feel. I go in and out of the Academy a few times, merely to test weapons. I never use anything more than a level 1 variant. The cool part about the people scrubbing in Academy? Insects get crushed when they come out of their little hole. This is the way of New Eden. Added note: Laser rifles make people seizure until they realize it's a light show, then it's usually a good time to switch to secondary.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 124	Posted - 2013.08.06 08:42:00 - [5] - Quote Match making will all but destroy the quality of play in this game and replace it with cherry picking farmers. I went negative 3 times tonight. Oh ******* well. I get pub stomped just like everyone else. Toughen up. Learn to aim. fight like a man.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1124	Posted - 2013.08.06 09:02:00 - [6] - Quote Solution: Tiercide.
Starscream 12 Demon's Forge 3	Posted - 2013.08.06 10:33:00 - [7] - Quote i went into academy on a new alt, went like 200/1 (because **** terrain) just get a sica go 4k shield and fit blaster, people dont know how to deal with good sica in academy and those who do dont want to invest SP just to get rid of a militia tank
CrotchGrab 360 187. 175	Posted - 2013.08.06 11:53:00 - [8] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: People are even trying to stomp the academy now, pretty obvious when you end up against a group all using exo 5s and spamming like it was going out of style And since I know the question is coming Im in the academy on an alt and Im not spending a skill point til he gets out it's so easy to see who is farming in the academy. I'm there because I created a new character. Not for ISK but for a new weapon and new suit. Most people are stood still, I went 13-0 in the 25 clone match and all of the enemies were stood still. But then there's that guy in the madrugar, or something else other than militia gear. Well I love killing them in the same way I would hunt down farming level 70s in MAG in suppression who were just there for easy kills.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 476	Posted - 2013.08.06 11:58:00 - [9] - Quote Everyone before you has had their butts handed to them in a pub stomp. This is the rite of passage, the way to build you as a mercenary. Just think on that, we are mercenaries in a hostile cluster where we are tasked to take on odds even in the face of sure death with dropsuits that allow us to withstand harsh environments and even dangerous weapons. Fortitude son. Understand it and build it from within. It takes losing to understand how to win and consistently win.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 805	Posted - 2013.08.06 12:20:00 - [10] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Everyone before you has had their butts handed to them in a pub stomp. This is the rite of passage, the way to build you as a mercenary. Just think on that, we are mercenaries in a hostile cluster where we are tasked to take on odds even in the face of sure death with dropsuits that allow us to withstand harsh environments and even dangerous weapons. Fortitude son. Understand it and build it from within. It takes losing to understand how to win and consistently win. This sounds good and all.. for players out of academy. All they have is an 8v8 ambush match now,. going in there using a tank or specialized weapon KNOWING it is ruining their enjoyment of the game. I think alot of these people doing it do it for just that purpose. Some do NOT want this game to get better, they like looking the best and don't want more competition.. or they are just assholes. How are they suppose to realize any good in this game if their match is over in a minute and they actually stood on the ground for maybe 20 seconds getting either ran over by an LAV racer ( noobs don't use this tactic, scrub players used to the game do ). Or getting spammed by mass drivers on a tiny ass map. CCP needs to re-work the entire path to mercenary new guy game mode. They need to hurry and introduce pve , with a how to tutorial showing you how to use explosives, how to aim down sight, teaching about dispersion and kick when holding trigger , how to drive , how to make squad orders, what each squad order means. How to apply skillpoints , how to jump, how to crouch. Break down specialty weapons and their uses.. make this **** deep and have them leaving this REQUIRED training mode ready for the game. oh and HOW TO OPEN CHAT AND TURN ON VOICE. Make it to where if this is not completed you can't even enter multiplayer pvp. If they want to continue trying to just throw them in blind in small map ambush like they do now.. then I propose that they put something in the works that blocks your player ID from academy if you already have an account outside of academy. People could still make alt PSN accounts too, so maybe a block on IP itself out of academy ( i don't know if this is possible, or if sony would allow it ).. people would cry and come in with some odd excuse like BUT WHAT ABOUT MY BROTHER OR FRIEND.. lols.. well, to answer that.. you are there, you have played it, teach your brother or friend. WE NEED TO KEEP NEW PLAYERS< NOT RUN THEM OFF

steadyhand amarr Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1029	Posted - 2013.08.06 12:39:00 - [11] - Quote Anybody who clameshazing says it's part of new eden does not no what there talking about and clearly never played EvE. In EvE you choose your own level of involvement and are fairly punished for your mistakes. In dust you have no choice u have to run your best gear to compete or get blasted to bits. Who in right mind thought that was fun and engaging gameplay. In fact I dont think they ever designed it. More of case of spending 5+ years trying to get the shooting right. I say this because their is no actual meta gameplay we ever tested its been two years of trying to get this bs to work
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 815	Posted - 2013.08.06 12:41:00 - [12] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: People are even trying to stomp the academy now, pretty obvious when you end up against a group all using exo 5s and spamming like it was going out of style And since I know the question is coming Im in the academy on an alt and Im not spending a skill point til he gets out People that are doing this are only gonna help kill this game. The academy guys are playing that lame stuff not by choice. So to be getting ROFL stomped the second you enter the game, ya most new players will be out the door saying this game is way too difficult or lame.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 649	Posted - 2013.08.06 12:42:00 - [13] - Quote I find it odd honestly that the academy is based on sp spent, not sp earned but whatever. meh least they are getting pub stomped by players with equal sp. as someone else said they may as well get used to it now, because it's no different when they are out, it should be rare and far between that you will find academy pub stompers, and even if it's not they can't be any worse then the pub stomps happening out side of it, let it be a warm up to the future that is coming to them +Å guess.


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