DUSTSearch ForumWatch http://dustsearch.com/ The alternative DUST514 Forum browser. en-us Tue, 9 Sep 2025 00:00:00 +0000 DUSTSearch RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Mobius Wyvern]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391638#post391638 ugg reset wrote:
Ghost-33 wrote:
Ghost-33 wrote:
Are we talking in quotes now? this is getting confusing Shocked



you're telling me.

what are you trying to say Mobius?

The same response I made to your thread earlier, which was to suggest a separate process for suit change at the supply depot that requires you to climb into a locker-type part of the Supply Depot and takes a few seconds to complete the change. However, swapping weapons alone would not be affected.]]> Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157560 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391552#post391552 Ghost-33 wrote:
Ghost-33 wrote:
Are we talking in quotes now? this is getting confusing Shocked



you're telling me.

what are you trying to say Mobius?]]> Thu, 8 Nov 2012 00:23:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157559 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Ghost-33]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391515#post391515 Ghost-33 wrote:
Are we talking in quotes now? this is getting confusing Shocked

]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:39:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157558 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Mobius Wyvern]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391455#post391455 ugg reset wrote:
Ghost-33 wrote:
ugg reset wrote:


I Don't Care. this is going to be a big game. if scrubs want to play in there little gun on gun pub match lobbies then there is no doubt that CCP will find a way to make that happen. If you want to win battles, districts or even planets you will need to be abile to fight on all fronts (AV, infantry, Cavalry and the yet to be seen orbital support) No one person, no one squad can do it all.

Adapt or Die. It's not that I don't like new players; just don't baby them. There are plenty of games that do that already.



You did just kind of make a statment that goes against your OP.

One person isn't going to win a battle so that one guy hot swapping suits at the supply depot is pretty insignificant, even if their were 8 guys swapping it out at the supply depot it would be even worse for that team cause they are having a pow wow at the supply depot and not capping objectives or defending theirs. In consideration to your statement to "adapt or die" well that is exactly what that one guy would be doing. Something that if you followed yourself would just mean suck it up and blow it up (supply depot).


When did I say that i don't swap suits? On the the contrary, I said that I use this to my advantage when ever posable but that I think that it takes away from the game. Is it to much to ask that you can't take the suit off but you can change the parts on it?!

You can't blow it up if you own it and sooner or later we will be able to call them in wherever we want.

Please tell me how committing to use one suite type per spawn is in any way relevant to scrubs getting plowed because they chose to bring a gun to a tank fight?!. Any suit type can preform an AV or infantry role (some better than others) and under my idea could be switched to that role.




Mobius Wyvern wrote:
ugg reset wrote:
A change should be made to supply depots so that you cannot change your drop suite type on the battle field. This isn't to say that you couldn't change to load outs with identical Drop suit platforms but to prevent scouts form becoming heavies in the blink of an eye.

For example: I was an assault suit being chased by an enemy with a shout gun. He took me to 1/2 armor as I ducked around a corner with an Supply Depot. In the few second it took him to close the gap I had changed from a militia Assault suit to a heavy with a HMG. Not to martyr this guy, but he could of beaten (or avoided me altogether) if he new what he was up against. Unfortunately, he wasn't alone so I pulled out my militia gear only to die 30 seconds later, free or charge.

I've noticed that if I change Lode outs to an identical suite type that all shield and armor damage is unchanged. Instead of an instant change of hardware, supply depot's should provide a slow (10-15hp/s) but infinite armor and shield rep just like they do for vehicles now.

Right now the Drop suit's are the most significant single investment for an infantry load out. I don't like to whine about fairness but I dont think it's right that a Merc can swap out good suits for welfare gear on the fly if the odds aren't in his favor.

Right now this isn't to much of an issue yet, but this could change when we can call in instations anywhere on the battle field. Nothing is stoping me from useing this tactic, if developers wish to keep it then I will not limmet myself. I just think it takes away form the game is all.

let me hear you thoughts.

How about something a bit less radical: Dead Space style walk-in suit swap with a time delay. Redo the Supply Depot model to have locker-type attachments on the sides, and require you to walk into one of those and go through a short animation to swap to a different suit, while picking a different loadout with the same suit can be done instantaneously.

]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:23:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157557 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391424#post391424 Ghost-33 wrote:
ugg reset wrote:


I Don't Care. this is going to be a big game. if scrubs want to play in there little gun on gun pub match lobbies then there is no doubt that CCP will find a way to make that happen. If you want to win battles, districts or even planets you will need to be abile to fight on all fronts (AV, infantry, Cavalry and the yet to be seen orbital support) No one person, no one squad can do it all.

Adapt or Die. It's not that I don't like new players; just don't baby them. There are plenty of games that do that already.



You did just kind of make a statment that goes against your OP.

One person isn't going to win a battle so that one guy hot swapping suits at the supply depot is pretty insignificant, even if their were 8 guys swapping it out at the supply depot it would be even worse for that team cause they are having a pow wow at the supply depot and not capping objectives or defending theirs. In consideration to your statement to "adapt or die" well that is exactly what that one guy would be doing. Something that if you followed yourself would just mean suck it up and blow it up (supply depot).


When did I say that i don't swap suits? On the the contrary, I said that I use this to my advantage when ever posable but that I think that it takes away from the game. Is it to much to ask that you can't take the suit off but you can change the parts on it?!

You can't blow it up if you own it and sooner or later we will be able to call them in wherever we want.

Please tell me how committing to use one suite type per spawn is in any way relevant to scrubs getting plowed because they chose to bring a gun to a tank fight?!. Any suit type can preform an AV or infantry role (some better than others) and under my idea could be switched to that role.


]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:01:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157556 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Ghost-33]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391388#post391388 ugg reset wrote:


I Don't Care. this is going to be a big game. if scrubs want to play in there little gun on gun pub match lobbies then there is no doubt that CCP will find a way to make that happen. If you want to win battles, districts or even planets you will need to be abile to fight on all fronts (AV, infantry, Cavalry and the yet to be seen orbital support) No one person, no one squad can do it all.

Adapt or Die. It's not that I don't like new players; just don't baby them. There are plenty of games that do that already.



You did just kind of make a statment that goes against your OP.

One person isn't going to win a battle so that one guy hot swapping suits at the supply depot is pretty insignificant, even if their were 8 guys swapping it out at the supply depot it would be even worse for that team cause they are having a pow wow at the supply depot and not capping objectives or defending theirs. In consideration to your statement to "adapt or die" well that is exactly what that one guy would be doing. Something that if you followed yourself would just mean suck it up and blow it up (supply depot).]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:31:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157555 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391338#post391338 Chunky Munkey wrote:
It's fine how it is. I wish people would give it a rest.


"As is" is kinda weird atm. in order to Rep your suit you need to take one suit off and put another on and then put the old one back on. if they want to keep the system the way it is then at least streamline the process and give me a new copy of the load out when I ask for it.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:31:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157554 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Chunky Munkey]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391329#post391329 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:22:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157553 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Sentient Archon]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391327#post391327 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:20:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157552 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391326#post391326 Sobriety Denied wrote:
not that big of deal imo, the depot can be capped and/or destroyed if it's bothering you that bad


Na, i just don't feel like im getting my idea through to other people on this thread.

My post above you was my opinion on people who would rather have a "fair and balanced fight" rather than participate in the Epic wars this game is promising. probably a locker room topic.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:17:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157551 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Sobriety Denied]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391320#post391320 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:09:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157550 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391318#post391318 Piercing Serenity wrote:
Imagine how much harder it'd be for a new player to get into the game without being able to pick the right suit for the job if you couldn't switch suits. Battles would go in waves - 14 of 16 players would come in as Anti - Infantry. The other team would put out two dropships and kill everyone because they can't respond. 8 of those people who were just killed just used up 20,000 ISK (As an example) switch to AV while all of those dropship pilots get out and kill the swarm launcher/forge gunners with AR's or snipers. Rinse and repeat.

I think that if we make the supply depots a little weaker - weak enough that a team or two of three can destroy one - we can let players control the flow of battle naturally. This system is benefiting everyone equally, regardless of SP or Class. I personally think that it's fine and needed with the variety of obstacles a merc has to face at any given time.


I Don't Care. this is going to be a big game. if scrubs want to play in there little gun on gun pub match lobbies then there is no doubt that CCP will find a way to make that happen. If you want to win battles, districts or even planets you will need to be abile to fight on all fronts (AV, infantry, Cavalry and the yet to be seen orbital support) No one person, no one squad can do it all.

Adapt or Die. It's not that I don't like new players; just don't baby them. There are plenty of games that do that already.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:04:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157549 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391302#post391302 VADOL II wrote:
As a Logi, I use Supply Depots to replenish my NanoHives and Droplinks, makes using those RHives much less worrisome. I can drop them whenever, and even random choke points in the hopes someone will walk over it and net me points, and still be able to refill them for when I really need them.


Clever. i like it.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:36:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157548 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391300#post391300 Mobius Wyvern wrote:
ugg reset wrote:
A change should be made to supply depots so that you cannot change your drop suite type on the battle field. This isn't to say that you couldn't change to load outs with identical Drop suit platforms but to prevent scouts form becoming heavies in the blink of an eye.

For example: I was an assault suit being chased by an enemy with a shout gun. He took me to 1/2 armor as I ducked around a corner with an Supply Depot. In the few second it took him to close the gap I had changed from a militia Assault suit to a heavy with a HMG. Not to martyr this guy, but he could of beaten (or avoided me altogether) if he new what he was up against. Unfortunately, he wasn't alone so I pulled out my militia gear only to die 30 seconds later, free or charge.

I've noticed that if I change Lode outs to an identical suite type that all shield and armor damage is unchanged. Instead of an instant change of hardware, supply depot's should provide a slow (10-15hp/s) but infinite armor and shield rep just like they do for vehicles now.

Right now the Drop suit's are the most significant single investment for an infantry load out. I don't like to whine about fairness but I dont think it's right that a Merc can swap out good suits for welfare gear on the fly if the odds aren't in his favor.

Right now this isn't to much of an issue yet, but this could change when we can call in instations anywhere on the battle field. Nothing is stoping me from useing this tactic, if developers wish to keep it then I will not limmet myself. I just think it takes away form the game is all.

let me hear you thoughts.

How about something a bit less radical: Dead Space style walk-in suit swap with a time delay. Redo the Supply Depot model to have locker-type attachments on the sides, and require you to walk into one of those and go through a short animation to swap to a different suit, while picking a different loadout with the same suit can be done instantaneously.


Sounds good but I don't see how a "supply depot" with gun's and amo and mods is more radical than a Walk in Closet with 50+ drop suit types in male and female selections.








]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:32:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157547 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391270#post391270 Gunthar Bundar wrote:
Really this is one of the mechanics about Dust that I really enjoy. Being able to switch to AV mid-fight without dying is a real perk. I agree with the comments on adding a time delay though, should be a bit more of an investment.


I'm not saying you can't switch weapons, mods, or equipment; just suit types. It's the changing of suit platforms (after spawning in ) that I'm interested in seeing removed or altered . If you do switch suit types that there is some sort of suit up time that would take longer than say just switching out an AR for a Swarm launcher.

Heck I have seen videos in EVEG where two Carriers are right next to each other in battle changing load outs as the situations dictates (something about using Triage to out tank the enemy) . the big difference here is that they are not switching ships just load outs.

How clones switch suits in the vacum of space and in other deadly conditions the middle of a battlefield no less still has me scratching my head. Hopefully CCP will give this a look or at least explain how a Scout can gain 700 LBS in the blink of an eye.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:00:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157546 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Novas Prime]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391263#post391263
Or make them only buyable installations so that you can call them in but they cost money. Atleast then you will need someone on the team to buy some to call it in.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:54:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157545 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Gunthar Bundar]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391194#post391194 Regis Mk V wrote:
Marston EV wrote:
Regis Mk V wrote:
You do know changing suits causes you to lose the suit you currently have.


no it doesn't.... i tested it. This is how it works..... say you go to a supply depot and you have to fittings for selection. Selection A, and Selection B. Both selections have 20 suits. Say you click on Selection A, and leave the supply depot. If you come back to the supply depot without dying and activate it, youll notice that Selection A should have only 19 suits. Ok so this means it takes a suit away from you right? no. If that person then clicks on Selection B, leaves the supply depot, and then reactivates it to switch suits again, they'll notice that Selection A has 20 suits again, and Selection B would have only 19. in other words, the number represents the number of stored suits, (aka: suits that arn't being used on the field).....


Don't tell me no it doesn't because I have lost suits so maybe just maybe it's a glitch.


I've abused this game mechanic for the better part of 4 months, and through those three builds I haven't lost a single suit. Mobius is right, you should file a ticket about it.

Really this is one of the mechanics about Dust that I really enjoy. Being able to switch to AV mid-fight without dying is a real perk. I agree with the comments on adding a time delay though, should be a bit more of an investment.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:19:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157544 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Mobius Wyvern]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391167#post391167 Regis Mk V wrote:
Marston EV wrote:
Regis Mk V wrote:
You do know changing suits causes you to lose the suit you currently have.


no it doesn't.... i tested it. This is how it works..... say you go to a supply depot and you have to fittings for selection. Selection A, and Selection B. Both selections have 20 suits. Say you click on Selection A, and leave the supply depot. If you come back to the supply depot without dying and activate it, youll notice that Selection A should have only 19 suits. Ok so this means it takes a suit away from you right? no. If that person then clicks on Selection B, leaves the supply depot, and then reactivates it to switch suits again, they'll notice that Selection A has 20 suits again, and Selection B would have only 19. in other words, the number represents the number of stored suits, (aka: suits that arn't being used on the field).....


Don't tell me no it doesn't because I have lost suits so maybe just maybe it's a glitch.

Its probably a glitch. You should make a bug report for it, as it looks like it hasn't been encountered often, and that's something that needs to be fixed before it screws up things in the live builds.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:50:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157543 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Regis Mk V]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391161#post391161 Marston EV wrote:
Regis Mk V wrote:
You do know changing suits causes you to lose the suit you currently have.


no it doesn't.... i tested it. This is how it works..... say you go to a supply depot and you have to fittings for selection. Selection A, and Selection B. Both selections have 20 suits. Say you click on Selection A, and leave the supply depot. If you come back to the supply depot without dying and activate it, youll notice that Selection A should have only 19 suits. Ok so this means it takes a suit away from you right? no. If that person then clicks on Selection B, leaves the supply depot, and then reactivates it to switch suits again, they'll notice that Selection A has 20 suits again, and Selection B would have only 19. in other words, the number represents the number of stored suits, (aka: suits that arn't being used on the field).....


Don't tell me no it doesn't because I have lost suits so maybe just maybe it's a glitch.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:47:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157542 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Mobius Wyvern]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391158#post391158 ugg reset wrote:
A change should be made to supply depots so that you cannot change your drop suite type on the battle field. This isn't to say that you couldn't change to load outs with identical Drop suit platforms but to prevent scouts form becoming heavies in the blink of an eye.

For example: I was an assault suit being chased by an enemy with a shout gun. He took me to 1/2 armor as I ducked around a corner with an Supply Depot. In the few second it took him to close the gap I had changed from a militia Assault suit to a heavy with a HMG. Not to martyr this guy, but he could of beaten (or avoided me altogether) if he new what he was up against. Unfortunately, he wasn't alone so I pulled out my militia gear only to die 30 seconds later, free or charge.

I've noticed that if I change Lode outs to an identical suite type that all shield and armor damage is unchanged. Instead of an instant change of hardware, supply depot's should provide a slow (10-15hp/s) but infinite armor and shield rep just like they do for vehicles now.

Right now the Drop suit's are the most significant single investment for an infantry load out. I don't like to whine about fairness but I dont think it's right that a Merc can swap out good suits for welfare gear on the fly if the odds aren't in his favor.

Right now this isn't to much of an issue yet, but this could change when we can call in instations anywhere on the battle field. Nothing is stoping me from useing this tactic, if developers wish to keep it then I will not limmet myself. I just think it takes away form the game is all.

let me hear you thoughts.

How about something a bit less radical: Dead Space style walk-in suit swap with a time delay. Redo the Supply Depot model to have locker-type attachments on the sides, and require you to walk into one of those and go through a short animation to swap to a different suit, while picking a different loadout with the same suit can be done instantaneously.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:44:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157541 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Jariel Manton]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391155#post391155 ugg reset wrote:
A change should be made to supply depots so that you cannot change your drop suite type on the battle field. This isn't to say that you couldn't change to load outs with identical Drop suit platforms but to prevent scouts form becoming heavies in the blink of an eye.

For example: I was an assault suit being chased by an enemy with a shout gun. He took me to 1/2 armor as I ducked around a corner with an Supply Depot. In the few second it took him to close the gap I had changed from a militia Assault suit to a heavy with a HMG. Not to martyr this guy, but he could of beaten (or avoided me altogether) if he new what he was up against. Unfortunately, he wasn't alone so I pulled out my militia gear only to die 30 seconds later, free or charge.

I've noticed that if I change Lode outs to an identical suite type that all shield and armor damage is unchanged. Instead of an instant change of hardware, supply depot's should provide a slow (10-15hp/s) but infinite armor and shield rep just like they do for vehicles now.

Right now the Drop suit's are the most significant single investment for an infantry load out. I don't like to whine about fairness but I dont think it's right that a Merc can swap out good suits for welfare gear on the fly if the odds aren't in his favor.

Right now this isn't to much of an issue yet, but this could change when we can call in instations anywhere on the battle field. Nothing is stoping me from useing this tactic, if developers wish to keep it then I will not limmet myself. I just think it takes away form the game is all.

let me hear you thoughts.







I dissagree completely, if you wanna pay to drop a friggin installation in so you can swap suits go ahead. Being able to switch suits is something that makes this game just a little bit different. For the repair i dont mind if i get health back although it would make sense that switching suits gives you health back, a slow recharge by supply depots is a good idea.
]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:39:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157540 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=391117#post391117 Raze galder wrote:
Ugg i can see where u are coming from but your request is kinda stupid some people use them like u did for a quick health regen but the reason they are there is so people can adapt to the ever changing battlefield. So ur saying u would deny the ability to do that say someone roles in a scout suit plants some uplinks changes to av to destroy a tank then changes to there hmg to help clear out a group of enemies if they had it the way u say then they are unable to do that unless they die and in other games this is the way it works but that is because they don't have a supply depot to swap loadouts.




This... helps keep the game unique and neccisary for adapting. Maybe change the healing up part, but should be no change in changing suits it just makes the game more linear.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:01:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157539 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Villore Isu]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390981#post390981 Paran Tadec wrote:
Working as intended.

WTB: A girlfriend who can change outfits as fast as we can. Lol]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:29:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157538 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Lion Redstar]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390979#post390979 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:26:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157537 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390961#post390961
As others have said we already own the suits so it's just like hopping back to the station and swapping to a new ship then flying off out again. If it's an issue then I guess we have to blow up the depot or make sure the guy doesn't get there.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:33:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157536 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Lion Redstar]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390949#post390949 Laurent Cazaderon wrote:
Honestly, this supply depot thing doesnt bother me much. It's even one of the nicest aspects of DUST. THe dynamic to switch roles at all time if you got a supply depot near you.

Regarding the insta-heal of suits. In EVE, a ship entering a station with 0 shield, and leaving the station immeditaly will have its full shield restored. Armor on the other hand remains as it was. In Dust, it's not stupid to think that swapping from a damaged TII assault, to a scout, then to the original TII assault gives you a brand new suit as you wouldnt take back the damaged one.
But you would have to repair that suit to use it later on.

Now, maybe this could be integrated into the gameplay ? Add a ISK cost to swapping between suits, cost depending on how damaged the suit you're giving back is ?

Would discourage any abuse. Thoughts ?


I'm totally with you.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:13:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157535 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Laurent Cazaderon]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390896#post390896
Regarding the insta-heal of suits. In EVE, a ship entering a station with 0 shield, and leaving the station immeditaly will have its full shield restored. Armor on the other hand remains as it was. In Dust, it's not stupid to think that swapping from a damaged TII assault, to a scout, then to the original TII assault gives you a brand new suit as you wouldnt take back the damaged one.
But you would have to repair that suit to use it later on.

Now, maybe this could be integrated into the gameplay ? Add a ISK cost to swapping between suits, cost depending on how damaged the suit you're giving back is ?

Would discourage any abuse. Thoughts ?]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:38:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157534 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Baal Roo]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390895#post390895 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:27:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157533 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Sleepy Zan]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390774#post390774 Wako 75 wrote:
fix make it cost wp or isk lol more wp

They are suits you already payed for, there shouldn't be any penalty to changing your fit. Just make it take time to change.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:03:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157532 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Wako 75]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390772#post390772 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:58:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157531 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Sleepy Zan]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390770#post390770 Paran Tadec wrote:
Working as intended.

meh, you shouldn't just be able to immediately switch fits without any sort of loading time though.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:55:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157530 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Paran Tadec]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390765#post390765 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:52:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157529 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Raze galder]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390759#post390759 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:37:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157528 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by HowDidThatTaste]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390709#post390709 Piercing Serenity wrote:
Imagine how much harder it'd be for a new player to get into the game without being able to pick the right suit for the job if you couldn't switch suits. Battles would go in waves - 14 of 16 players would come in as Anti - Infantry. The other team would put out two dropships and kill everyone because they can't respond. 8 of those people who were just killed just used up 20,000 ISK (As an example) switch to AV while all of those dropship pilots get out and kill the swarm launcher/forge gunners with AR's or snipers. Rinse and repeat.

I think that if we make the supply depots a little weaker - weak enough that a team or two of three can destroy one - we can let players control the flow of battle naturally. This system is benefiting everyone equally, regardless of SP or Class. I personally think that it's fine and needed with the variety of obstacles a merc has to face at any given time.


It was fun playing against you earlier today. You caught me in my AV gear,so I had to hunt you down, was good timesBig smile]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:06:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157527 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by VADOL II]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390706#post390706 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:01:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157526 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Piercing Serenity]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390701#post390701
I think that if we make the supply depots a little weaker - weak enough that a team or two of three can destroy one - we can let players control the flow of battle naturally. This system is benefiting everyone equally, regardless of SP or Class. I personally think that it's fine and needed with the variety of obstacles a merc has to face at any given time.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 03:55:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157525 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Marston EV]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390527#post390527 Regis Mk V wrote:
You do know changing suits causes you to lose the suit you currently have.


no it doesn't.... i tested it. This is how it works..... say you go to a supply depot and you have to fittings for selection. Selection A, and Selection B. Both selections have 20 suits. Say you click on Selection A, and leave the supply depot. If you come back to the supply depot without dying and activate it, youll notice that Selection A should have only 19 suits. Ok so this means it takes a suit away from you right? no. If that person then clicks on Selection B, leaves the supply depot, and then reactivates it to switch suits again, they'll notice that Selection A has 20 suits again, and Selection B would have only 19. in other words, the number represents the number of stored suits, (aka: suits that arn't being used on the field).....]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:04:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157524 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Super Cargo]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390517#post390517 ugg reset wrote:
Super Cargo wrote:
Why shouldn't I be able to switch in the middle of the battle?

Read the dam OP.


I did. I agree that it should take some time to swap, but I still don't understand why someone shouldn't be able to swap suits.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:55:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157523 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390501#post390501 Super Cargo wrote:
Why shouldn't I be able to switch in the middle of the battle?

Read the dam OP.
]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:46:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157522 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Super Cargo]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390500#post390500 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:45:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157521 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by RolyatDerTeufel]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390497#post390497 Mobius Wyvern wrote:
Regis Mk V wrote:
You do know changing suits causes you to lose the suit you currently have.

It doesn't actually. Switch back to the previous suit, open the menu again, and you'll see that that suit has been replaced in your inventory. I was worried about that, myself, so I tested it a week ago.


I've not yet seen that. I've lost the suits I've changed out of...

or at least I thought I did.

]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:44:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157520 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by InukamiHai]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390488#post390488 Regis Mk V wrote:
You do know changing suits causes you to lose the suit you currently have.


Id have to test that out and pay extreme attention to that Regis...I personally have noticed this:

Start game with 50 logi suits, then for X reason need to change suit, heres how it shows when doing that:


LOGI [49]
MILITIA [--]

*switch to militia*

Do what i want to do (die most usually) Then have to change back/respawn, have this:

LOGI[50]
MILITIA[--]

So....technically as far i can tell you DO store and keep the suit you were on prevoiusly...so long as you dont die, just like when finishing a match, you dont lose the suit you were using by the time is over (if you have 50 by the time ithe match starts- pick one, you have then 49 suits in storage, if you manage to not die / get injected every death trough the whole game, you "get back" the suit you were using that whole match).]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:40:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157518 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Mobius Wyvern]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390489#post390489 Regis Mk V wrote:
You do know changing suits causes you to lose the suit you currently have.

It doesn't actually. Switch back to the previous suit, open the menu again, and you'll see that that suit has been replaced in your inventory. I was worried about that, myself, so I tested it a week ago.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:40:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157519 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Regis Mk V]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390478#post390478 Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:28:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157517 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Sytonis Auran]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390434#post390434 HowDidThatTaste wrote:
This is one of the cool features of dust you can't take it away. How else are you supposed to switch to an AV
Load out. Its tough enough to hit a vehicles but then to have to continue running around in your 150,000 plus AV suit without the ability to change would be horrible.


Besides its a great way to recharge your armor on the heavy suit since no one runs repair kits now that they are given no points for repair.


I agree it is one of the cool features, if auto healing is necessary for hot-swapping to occur then so be it. I don't feel its game-breaking.]]> Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:08:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157516 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Ghost-33]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390256#post390256
EDIT: Really the only thing its there for is swapping suits or loadouts, if it couldn't do that they should just be removed from the game. We already have nanohives.]]> Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:49:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157515 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390209#post390209 HowDidThatTaste wrote:
This is one of the cool features of dust you can't take it away. How else are you supposed to switch to an AV
Load out. Its tough enough to hit a vehicles but then to have to continue running around in your 150,000 plus AV suit without the ability to change would be horrible.


Besides its a great way to recharge your armor on the heavy suit since no one runs repair kits now that they are given no points for repair.


I never said you couldn't switch to your guns or mods, just your suits. However, if you don't have an AV class on the suit that you spawned in with then your fresh out of luck. on the bright side there is no rule that says you can't change your load out in game if you can find a safe spot.

As for repping I adressed that in the OP. try reading it.]]> Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:21:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157514 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390204#post390204 Ten-Sidhe wrote:
This could get out of hand. Maybe a limit to switching suits out completely, like it takes as long to do as hack the supply depot. So, changing from scout to heavy would take 10seconds or so. This keeps utility but stops the tactic OP wanted to remove.

Or OP's idea would work fine and be simpler to do. +1


Ya, i thought about your idea while i was writing this. I like it but i wanted to stay focused as opposed to spouting out ideas. +1 to you too.]]> Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:13:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157513 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by HowDidThatTaste]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390202#post390202 Load out. Its tough enough to hit a vehicles but then to have to continue running around in your 150,000 plus AV suit without the ability to change would be horrible.


Besides its a great way to recharge your armor on the heavy suit since no one runs repair kits now that they are given no points for repair.]]> Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:12:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157512 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by Ten-Sidhe]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390200#post390200
Or OP's idea would work fine and be simpler to do. +1]]> Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:10:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157511 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390193#post390193 SoTa PoP wrote:
I'll admit, the suit I run with is completely modded up, nearly 200,000 ISK loss per suit for me, so I often use the supply depots to insta heal my suit.

And honestly, as a heavy, if it weren't for that I'd die a lot more. My armor is like paper, 1000 HP goes by in 2 seconds.


ya we aren't gods but we sure are a pain to bring down. esp with friendly support.
]]> Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:02:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157510 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by SoTa PoP]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390162#post390162
And honestly, as a heavy, if it weren't for that I'd die a lot more. My armor is like paper, 1000 HP goes by in 2 seconds.]]> Tue, 6 Nov 2012 20:42:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/157509 <![CDATA[Supply Depots: suit swapping. - by ugg reset]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=390154#post390154
For example: I was an assault suit being chased by an enemy with a shout gun. He took me to 1/2 armor as I ducked around a corner with an Supply Depot. In the few second it took him to close the gap I had changed from a militia Assault suit to a heavy with a HMG. Not to martyr this guy, but he could of beaten (or avoided me altogether) if he new what he was up against. Unfortunately, he wasn't alone so I pulled out my militia gear only to die 30 seconds later, free or charge.

I've noticed that if I change Lode outs to an identical suite type that all shield and armor damage is unchanged. Instead of an instant change of hardware, supply depot's should provide a slow (10-15hp/s) but infinite armor and shield rep just like they do for vehicles now.

Right now the Drop suit's are the most significant single investment for an infantry load out. I don't like to whine about fairness but I dont think it's right that a Merc can swap out good suits for welfare gear on the fly if the odds aren't in his favor.

Right now this isn't to much of an issue yet, but this could change when we can call in instations anywhere on the battle field. Nothing is stoping me from useing this tactic, if developers wish to keep it then I will not limmet myself. I just think it takes away form the game is all.

let me hear you thoughts.





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