DUSTSearch ForumWatch http://dustsearch.com/ The alternative DUST514 Forum browser. en-us Tue, 9 Sep 2025 00:00:00 +0000 DUSTSearch RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Atiim]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2467038#post2467038 Henrietta Unknown wrote:
Ripley Riley wrote:
Henrietta Unknown wrote:
Try Amarr1. PIE almost never responds to squad requests; only location for orbitals.
The one time I joined Amarr1 is was a bit of a clusterfuck. It may have been the people online at the time. I'll try it again.

Duboi? Yeah, he screwed up in the early stages, but lately his coordinated attempts have taken their toll on the Minmatar.

You mean that guy who drops OBs in the middle of nowhere?]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:25:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2108039
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Blueprint For Murder]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2467005#post2467005 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:10:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2108019 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by The Master Race]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2467005#post2467005 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:10:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2108425 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by John Demonsbane]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466995#post2466995 fighing well on the losing side. There were numerous occasions on which I would have more WP and more kills than the bottom 6 people on the leaderboard combined and I'm frankly just not that good.

My suggestion would be if you lose but:
- Finish in the top 3 and have more than 750 WP or
- Have more than 1000 WP regardless of where you end up

You should get a small standings increase, maybe 25 points. A lore based reason is that the factions would not want to risk losing their best soldiers and so would reward those who fought well against insurmountable odds. Makes as much sense as giving full payment to someone who sat around playing cards at the rear while everyone else did the work.


As for those who wish to join the Imperial Guard, three things to know:

1) Evenings in the US is when we are strongest. During the day you're likely to get a beatdown from what I've heard.

2) PIE Ground Control has very few squads "based" there (as opposed to those with a primary chat elsewhere who are in the channel to sync or get OB Support), so it can be hard to get the few openings that exist. I was literally one of the first dozen people in the channel and I can't get a squad sometimes so don't be surpised or feel excluded, it's a matter of supply and demand.

3) Amarr1 runs more squads more frequently, so it's much easier to get in, but yes it can be significantly less organized than PIE GC. Being so inclusive/active naturally lends itself to chaos and having a lower average skill level but that's just fine to recruit and train the Amarr stalwarts of tomorrow.


]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:06:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2108005
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Slave of MORTE]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466953#post2466953 Llast 326 wrote:
CommanderBolt wrote:
So I've done Minmatar FW on and off over the past year or so mainly because corp members and friends had wanted to do it. Until recently it had been a long time since I even touched any FW.

Obviously I have been playing again recently and it has made me realise that FW is at times a complete waste of time.

I might as well AFK through matches as if we dont win then my efforts mean nothing other than extra lost isk.

I propose the following:

Keep the higher LP pay outs for the winning faction however directly tie WP to extra LP and crucially - extra standings gains at the end of a battle regardless of if you win or lose.

Otherwise I am just going to AFK as my efforts are meaningless.

I've been in FW a long timeG except for a big break shortly after the LP store went inG as wait times got ridiculous.
What I've noticed is sometimes you get a strong start G but as soon as one team decides that they won't win they stop doingG
a n y t h i n g

I was thinking that perhaps a small rank increase to the top 5-10 players on the losing side may add incentive to keep a match running rather than having MCC siestas halfway through the match.

Added LP is also a good option.


The reason when one team decides they won't win they don't do anything is simple shotty payouts ****** risk vs reward system both in fw and pubs AFKing is rampant ...because when the **** hots the fan it's not worth putting up a fight

Now for example it was like that first day of 1.9 but toned down ..i would be willing to fight alone with 15 AFKing random vs a full serious team..because I would be rewarded
I had tines that day where the highest killed under me had 5 kills where as I was over 30..we lose I make some decent pay as the only try hard on my team ..

But right now ..If you lose you get ****..no matter how well you perform compared to the rest if your team ..so once you know it's a loss ..why do anything but afk?

Once you know you've lost you know exactly how much isk or lp tour gunna get..you know nothing will change that..hell even if you were on the other side being all serious and try hard you would only get slightly more ..

What's the point in doing anything other than AFKing out ur cap in dust and going to play a different game with a balanced risk vs rewards system]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:47:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107955
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Henrietta Unknown]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466936#post2466936 Ripley Riley wrote:
Henrietta Unknown wrote:
Try Amarr1. PIE almost never responds to squad requests; only location for orbitals.
The one time I joined Amarr1 is was a bit of a clusterfuck. It may have been the people online at the time. I'll try it again.

Duboi? Yeah, he screwed up in the early stages, but lately his coordinated attempts have taken their toll on the Minmatar.]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:40:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107954
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Kayla Michael]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466932#post2466932 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:38:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107938 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Henrietta Unknown]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466919#post2466919 Ripley Riley wrote:
  1. LFS in PIE Ground Control
  2. No replies after 10 minutes
  3. Queue for Amarr FW alone
  4. DEFEAT
  5. EoM screen displays two full squads on Minmatar side
  6. Examine Amarr side: a squad of three and 13 random NPC corps
  7. Try not to cry
  8. Cry
  9. Cry a lot

Try Amarr1. PIE almost never responds to squad requests; only location for orbitals.]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:34:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107936
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Ripley Riley]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466922#post2466922 Henrietta Unknown wrote:
Try Amarr1. PIE almost never responds to squad requests; only location for orbitals.
The one time I joined Amarr1 is was a bit of a clusterfuck. It may have been the people online at the time. I'll try it again.
]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:34:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107937
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Leadfoot10]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466913#post2466913 Thor Odinson42 wrote:
I've won like 30 min matches in a row. Sitting on 98K LP.

Join xmlx and sync some battles with or against.


FYI, for those not familiar, we go round-robin in XMLX -- from Am to Min to Cal to Gal.]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:30:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107935
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Mad Syringe]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466903#post2466903
I hate the looks, but the suit is fun...

Beware Amarrians, when santa comes to you, you might want to hide or you'll get the "driver"...]]>
Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:22:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107913
<![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Ripley Riley]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466789#post2466789
  • LFS in PIE Ground Control
  • No replies after 10 minutes
  • Queue for Amarr FW alone
  • DEFEAT
  • EoM screen displays two full squads on Minmatar side
  • Examine Amarr side: a squad of three and 13 random NPC corps
  • Try not to cry
  • Cry
  • Cry a lot
  • ]]>
    Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:25:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107803
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Blueprint For Murder]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466782#post2466782 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:20:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2107802 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by The Master Race]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2466782#post2466782 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:20:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2108424 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Flint Beastgood III]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2465158#post2465158 CommanderBolt wrote:
    So I've done Minmatar FW on and off over the past year or so mainly because corp members and friends had wanted to do it. Until recently it had been a long time since I even touched any FW.

    Obviously I have been playing again recently and it has made me realise that FW is at times a complete waste of time.

    I might as well AFK through matches as if we dont win then my efforts mean nothing other than extra lost isk.

    I propose the following:

    Keep the higher LP pay outs for the winning faction however directly tie WP to extra LP and crucially - extra standings gains at the end of a battle regardless of if you win or lose.

    Otherwise I am just going to AFK as my efforts are meaningless.




    This guy gets it!

    A lot of games I just decide to AFK after seeing that one side doesn't stand a chance.

    Now if, like pubs, my LP was affected by my WP (& kills?) on top of whatever the faction loyalty rank pays, that would give me incentive to keep playing. And yes, there should be something that alters the standings gain, maybe the new loyalty rank bonuses for LP gain could affect standings gain too?]]>
    Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:33:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2106208
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Blueprint For Murder]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2463065#post2463065 Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:10:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2104185 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by The Master Race]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2463065#post2463065 Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:10:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2108423 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by General Mosquito]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2463059#post2463059 CommanderBolt wrote:


    Then why bother trying in FW? I might as well AFK as I receive the same rewards. Getting on your high horse about this wont help. I am merely pointing out that if you want people to actually do something, they need an incentive EVEN IF they are going to lose.

    Hell some FW matches there are 3-4 people AFK. Well there will be one more joining them.


    You try in FW because you care about the faction.

    You try in FW because you hope you will find a similarly motivated team on the other side and can have better matches than are on offer in pub matches.

    You want a reward for being a loser? Play pub matches.

    You demand compensation for not being able to get the job done? Pub matches.

    I don't need to be on a high horse, I'm just a normal player. I play to win, or else I wouldn't play. You on the other hand seem to play for rewards only, to inflate your ego in some form. I pity you, but I will still point out that you are the problem, not the lack of rewards for losers in FW.

    Losers shouldn't get anything in New Eden.]]>
    Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:04:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2104176
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by CommanderBolt]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2462870#post2462870 General Mosquito wrote:
    CommanderBolt wrote:


    All I am asking for is that people who DO try are at least rewarded. I bleed for my faction and dont even get a small standings increase? Yea I'm not down with that.


    Why do you need a participation medal? Are you a 6 year old playing in a sports league?

    You failed, why should you get paid for not being as good as the people who beat you?

    Don't like it, continue to be a pubscrub.


    Then why bother trying in FW? I might as well AFK as I receive the same rewards. Getting on your high horse about this wont help. I am merely pointing out that if you want people to actually do something, they need an incentive EVEN IF they are going to lose.

    Hell some FW matches there are 3-4 people AFK. Well there will be one more joining them.]]>
    Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:19:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103999
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Spkr4theDead]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2462402#post2462402 Sun, 16 Nov 2014 03:22:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103539 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by General Mosquito]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2462397#post2462397 CommanderBolt wrote:


    All I am asking for is that people who DO try are at least rewarded. I bleed for my faction and dont even get a small standings increase? Yea I'm not down with that.


    Why do you need a participation medal? Are you a 6 year old playing in a sports league?

    You failed, why should you get paid for not being as good as the people who beat you?

    Don't like it, continue to be a pubscrub.]]>
    Sun, 16 Nov 2014 03:13:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103532
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Sylwester Dziewiecki]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461997#post2461997 CommanderBolt wrote:
    So I've done Minmatar FW on and off over the past year or so mainly because corp members and friends had wanted to do it. Until recently it had been a long time since I even touched any FW.

    Obviously I have been playing again recently and it has made me realise that FW is at times a complete waste of time.

    I might as well AFK through matches as if we dont win then my efforts mean nothing other than extra lost isk.

    I propose the following:

    Keep the higher LP pay outs for the winning faction however directly tie WP to extra LP and crucially - extra standings gains at the end of a battle regardless of if you win or lose.

    Otherwise I am just going to AFK as my efforts are meaningless.

    You are right.

    The worst moment is when opposite team redline your team - at this point there is no reason to even try push them back, you end up in this situation because your team do not have 'players' to hold damn point so even trying to capture CRU is pointless - WP are pointless. Win or nothing.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:45:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103135
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Dreis Shadowweaver]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461976#post2461976 Cheydinhal Guard wrote:
    You play Min FW too? For some reason every Min match i get into is a complete stomp by the Amarrians. Min blueberries are almost as bad as Cal blueberries.

    Straight Were you lonewolfing?]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:29:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103134
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Aria Gomes]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461974#post2461974 Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:26:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103114 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Ghost Kaisar]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461970#post2461970 Vesperz wrote:
    I can't seem to get into any Min matches lately. Is there a Min FW channel up and running? Sad


    xmlx or Matari Militia.

    Matari Militia is password protected, message me for the inv.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:23:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103113
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Thor Odinson42]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461966#post2461966
    Join xmlx and sync some battles with or against.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:16:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103107
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by MINA Longstrike]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461959#post2461959
    This was with old payouts though

    So 1000 wp = 100% increased payout and +20 standing]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:09:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103106
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Vesperz]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461926#post2461926 ]]> Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:39:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103078 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by CharacterNameWasTaken]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461921#post2461921 Llast 326 wrote:
    CommanderBolt wrote:
    So I've done Minmatar FW on and off over the past year or so mainly because corp members and friends had wanted to do it. Until recently it had been a long time since I even touched any FW.

    Obviously I have been playing again recently and it has made me realise that FW is at times a complete waste of time.

    I might as well AFK through matches as if we dont win then my efforts mean nothing other than extra lost isk.

    I propose the following:

    Keep the higher LP pay outs for the winning faction however directly tie WP to extra LP and crucially - extra standings gains at the end of a battle regardless of if you win or lose.

    Otherwise I am just going to AFK as my efforts are meaningless.

    I've been in FW a long timeG except for a big break shortly after the LP store went inG as wait times got ridiculous.
    What I've noticed is sometimes you get a strong start G but as soon as one team decides that they won't win they stop doingG
    a n y t h i n g

    I was thinking that perhaps a small rank increase to the top 5-10 players on the losing side may add incentive to keep a match running rather than having MCC siestas halfway through the match.

    Added LP is also a good option.


    we still need to get salvage for what we kill. Cant tell you how many times ive killed full protos at least 10 times to turn out at the end of the match with a bunch of mlt-adv stuff and it pisses me ofd to know that some random blue that sat there and did nothung got the proto **** I killed not him.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:34:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2103057
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Atiim]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461786#post2461786 Ghost Kaisar wrote:
    Cheydinhal Guard wrote:
    You play Min FW too? For some reason every Min match i get into is a complete stomp by the Amarrians. Min blueberries are almost as bad as Cal blueberries.


    Matari Militia can count it's losses on it's fingers.

    Join the militia today.

    My losses are only 3 since I've worked with the MM, meaning even my Cat could. P]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:15:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102932
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Ghost Kaisar]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461781#post2461781 Cheydinhal Guard wrote:
    You play Min FW too? For some reason every Min match i get into is a complete stomp by the Amarrians. Min blueberries are almost as bad as Cal blueberries.


    Matari Militia can count it's losses on it's fingers.

    Join the militia today.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:11:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102931
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by LUGMOS]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461663#post2461663

    Yesterday, I saw this blueberry setting up his jihad jeep, and he was so close to being finished...

    Then I shot one of the REsTwisted]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:34:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102816
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Crimson ShieId]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461626#post2461626 Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:15:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102778 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by CommanderBolt]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461618#post2461618 Foehammerr wrote:
    I'll keep that in mind, and I'll make sure you lose a few suits in the MCC as well. We all spend something in FW and you're no exception. All in or nothing.


    Mate I always usually try no matter the odds however when there is litterally 0 point to trying I am going to save myself the hassle. (Read when put against 8+ Nyain san or who ever....I didn't want this to be about hard matches because I totally accept that)

    That being said, I would love to know what you plan to do to a free suit in an MCC.

    All I am asking for is that people who DO try are at least rewarded. I bleed for my faction and dont even get a small standings increase? Yea I'm not down with that.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:10:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102777
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Riptalis]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461602#post2461602 CommanderBolt wrote:
    So I've done Minmatar FW on and off over the past year or so mainly because corp members and friends had wanted to do it. Until recently it had been a long time since I even touched any FW.

    Obviously I have been playing again recently and it has made me realise that FW is at times a complete waste of time.

    I might as well AFK through matches as if we dont win then my efforts mean nothing other than extra lost isk.

    I propose the following:

    Keep the higher LP pay outs for the winning faction however directly tie WP to extra LP and crucially - extra standings gains at the end of a battle regardless of if you win or lose.

    Otherwise I am just going to AFK as my efforts are meaningless.

    There were times where we could've won IF our team kept pushing the objective!

    But yeah, an increase is definetly needed.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:54:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102760
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Henrietta Unknown]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461592#post2461592 Llast 326 wrote:
    Henrietta Unknown wrote:
    When the team decides to quit trying, it's usually because they're berries. Competent squads and Q-syncs never falter.

    Not from what I've seen. I've been in matches where PC corps have given up at the half way point.
    Could be to protect KDR
    Could be because there is no incentive to keep the push on.
    Could be they feel that they don't want to "carry the team" because "blueberries"
    I don't know why, probably a mix of these things and more that I am overlooking, but it does happen.

    Then they are not competent, and should not be in FW in the first place.

    Victory > KDR in my book.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:50:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102759
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Llast 326]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461588#post2461588 Henrietta Unknown wrote:
    When the team decides to quit trying, it's usually because they're berries. Competent squads and Q-syncs never falter.

    Not from what I've seen. I've been in matches where PC corps have given up at the half way point.
    Could be to protect KDR
    Could be because there is no incentive to keep the push on.
    Could be they feel that they don't want to "carry the team" because "blueberries"
    I don't know why, probably a mix of these things and more that I am overlooking, but it does happen.]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:48:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102738
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Foehammerr]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461587#post2461587 Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:47:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102737 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Blueprint For Murder]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461578#post2461578 Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:43:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102736 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Henrietta Unknown]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461575#post2461575 Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:39:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102735 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Llast 326]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461567#post2461567 CommanderBolt wrote:
    So I've done Minmatar FW on and off over the past year or so mainly because corp members and friends had wanted to do it. Until recently it had been a long time since I even touched any FW.

    Obviously I have been playing again recently and it has made me realise that FW is at times a complete waste of time.

    I might as well AFK through matches as if we dont win then my efforts mean nothing other than extra lost isk.

    I propose the following:

    Keep the higher LP pay outs for the winning faction however directly tie WP to extra LP and crucially - extra standings gains at the end of a battle regardless of if you win or lose.

    Otherwise I am just going to AFK as my efforts are meaningless.

    I've been in FW a long timeG except for a big break shortly after the LP store went inG as wait times got ridiculous.
    What I've noticed is sometimes you get a strong start G but as soon as one team decides that they won't win they stop doingG
    a n y t h i n g

    I was thinking that perhaps a small rank increase to the top 5-10 players on the losing side may add incentive to keep a match running rather than having MCC siestas halfway through the match.

    Added LP is also a good option.

    ]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:36:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102718
    <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by Cheydinhal Guard]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461551#post2461551 Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:26:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102708 <![CDATA[FW brought out the worst in me.... - by CommanderBolt]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2461506#post2461506
    Obviously I have been playing again recently and it has made me realise that FW is at times a complete waste of time.

    I might as well AFK through matches as if we dont win then my efforts mean nothing other than extra lost isk.

    I propose the following:

    Keep the higher LP pay outs for the winning faction however directly tie WP to extra LP and crucially - extra standings gains at the end of a battle regardless of if you win or lose.

    Otherwise I am just going to AFK as my efforts are meaningless.
    ]]>
    Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:47:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/2102671