DUSTSearch ForumWatch http://dustsearch.com/ The alternative DUST514 Forum browser. en-us Tue, 9 Sep 2025 00:00:00 +0000 DUSTSearch RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Mercenary Anti Armor]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1890512#post1890512 Sun, 2 Mar 2014 05:54:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1571609 <![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Soldier Sorajord]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1890359#post1890359 DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Disturbingly Bored wrote:
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Here is a simple explanation:

The proficiency decreases the time in between shots. This means that you can shoot more in less time.


That logic makes no sense Lol.

Wow, sir I can't imagine how you got through theoretical math courses, or through analytical essays.

What really doesn't make any sense is they use the term Decrease in [b]ROF[/]. ROF = how quickly it shoots. Reduction to that, It sounds like the gun shoots slower, which is counter productive.]]>
Sun, 2 Mar 2014 03:56:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1571462
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Scout Registry]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1887349#post1887349 mollerz wrote:
I got to level 3 before I gave up on it because I certainly didn't notice any difference. And then I gave up on shotty's altogether because they suck.

Knives are where it's at.

This.]]>
Sat, 1 Mar 2014 02:12:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1568619
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by DeadlyAztec11]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1886197#post1886197 Disturbingly Bored wrote:
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Here is a simple explanation:

The proficiency decreases the time in between shots. This means that you can shoot more in less time.


That logic makes no sense Lol.

Wow, sir I can't imagine how you got through theoretical math courses, or through analytical essays.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:12:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1567543
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Fusion Commander]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1886141#post1886141 Bormir1r wrote:
Fusion Commander wrote:
Bormir1r wrote:
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.

i know, but i'm looking for the people who DO have it.

i know Shotty GoBang, Smooth Assassin, and Lightning xVx have it, and there's bound to be more.


King Amaterasu has it, I'm pretty sure Fusion Commander has it, and I will have it soon! XD


I don't have it I could get it right now if I wanted to


Oops. Lol


It's at 4 I don't find it necessary to go to 5, that small percentage isn't worth all that sp
]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:43:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1567494
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Luk Manag]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1886130#post1886130 Knight Solitaire wrote:
Base Stats (No Proficiency) = 8 Shots (One 'Magazine') in 5.6s

Level 5 Proficiency = 8 Shots in 4.8s

Creodron Shotgun DPS (Base) = 754.2

Creodron Shotgun DPS (Pro 5) = 867.4

Not too great of a difference for such an expensive skill, an RoF bonus on an Alpha Weapon isn't the greatest of ideas.


It's on par with a reload speed bonus on a long range weapon.
]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:36:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1567478
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Knight Solitaire]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1886113#post1886113
Level 5 Proficiency = 8 Shots in 4.8s

Creodron Shotgun DPS (Base) = 754.2

Creodron Shotgun DPS (Pro 5) = 867.4

Not too great of a difference for such an expensive skill, an RoF bonus on an Alpha Weapon isn't the greatest of ideas.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:28:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1567477
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Bormir1r]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1886089#post1886089 Fusion Commander wrote:
Bormir1r wrote:
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.

i know, but i'm looking for the people who DO have it.

i know Shotty GoBang, Smooth Assassin, and Lightning xVx have it, and there's bound to be more.


King Amaterasu has it, I'm pretty sure Fusion Commander has it, and I will have it soon! XD


I don't have it I could get it right now if I wanted to


Oops. Lol]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:18:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1567424
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Fusion Commander]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1886063#post1886063 Bormir1r wrote:
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.

i know, but i'm looking for the people who DO have it.

i know Shotty GoBang, Smooth Assassin, and Lightning xVx have it, and there's bound to be more.


King Amaterasu has it, I'm pretty sure Fusion Commander has it, and I will have it soon! XD


I don't have it I could get it right now if I wanted to
]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:10:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1567423
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Joel II X]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884663#post1884663
I can't tell you how many times I've died to a heavy with 40 armor left because I couldn't get 1 more shot in time.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 06:35:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1566114
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Galvan Nized]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884665#post1884665
Going from lvl 4 to 5, you go from 95.99 to 98.5 rpm or from 1.60 rds a second to 1.64. Hardly noticeable at all.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 06:35:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1566115
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Lucrezia LeGrand]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884594#post1884594 DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
knight of 6 wrote:
Soldier Sorajord wrote:
Awry Barux wrote:
Patrick57 wrote:
I thought it decreased rate of fire O_O


If you check out the weapon spreadsheets in feedback/requests, CCP internally measures ROF in time between shots, not RPM as stated in the weapon info. Therefore a reduction to ROF = reduced time between shots = higher RPM.

That logic makes no sense Lol.

from a programming stand point it makes sense.

the shot is

deal damage
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
deal damage

the number of "wait"s is quantifiable to give a 10% rof boost you'd simply remove one "wait". this is very simplified logic btw.

Knight, that was the most confusing explanation I've ever heard.

Here is a simple explanation:

The proficiency decreases the time in between shots. This means that you can shoot more in less time.

I don't know, I kind of liked the way he described it. ( - )]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 05:58:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1566062
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Cyrus Grevare]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884488#post1884488 TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
how fast does it shoot? i would've had it a long time ago, but i instead skilled into proto plasma cannons with some proficiency.

i'm so excited, because i did the calculations and i'm going to have it by tomorrow! i have proficiency IV and it already fires really fast, so i can't wait to find out find out fast proficiency V shoots! Big smile


I think this calculation is already working on protofits.com please feel free to experiment. You can use it without registering. Blink

Regards]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 05:02:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565959
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Disturbingly Bored]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884464#post1884464 DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Here is a simple explanation:

The proficiency decreases the time in between shots. This means that you can shoot more in less time.


That logic makes no sense Lol.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:51:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565958
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by DeadlyAztec11]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884453#post1884453 knight of 6 wrote:
Soldier Sorajord wrote:
Awry Barux wrote:
Patrick57 wrote:
I thought it decreased rate of fire O_O


If you check out the weapon spreadsheets in feedback/requests, CCP internally measures ROF in time between shots, not RPM as stated in the weapon info. Therefore a reduction to ROF = reduced time between shots = higher RPM.

That logic makes no sense Lol.

from a programming stand point it makes sense.

the shot is

deal damage
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
deal damage

the number of "wait"s is quantifiable to give a 10% rof boost you'd simply remove one "wait". this is very simplified logic btw.

Knight, that was the most confusing explanation I've ever heard.

Here is a simple explanation:

The proficiency decreases the time in between shots. This means that you can shoot more in less time.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:46:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565921
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by knight of 6]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884436#post1884436 Soldier Sorajord wrote:
Awry Barux wrote:
Patrick57 wrote:
I thought it decreased rate of fire O_O


If you check out the weapon spreadsheets in feedback/requests, CCP internally measures ROF in time between shots, not RPM as stated in the weapon info. Therefore a reduction to ROF = reduced time between shots = higher RPM.

That logic makes no sense Lol.

from a programming stand point it makes sense.

the shot is

deal damage
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
deal damage

the number of "wait"s is quantifiable to give a 10% rof boost you'd simply remove one "wait". this is very simplified logic btw.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:40:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565920
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by mollerz]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884386#post1884386
Knives are where it's at.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:18:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565869
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Bormir1r]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884334#post1884334 TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.

i know, but i'm looking for the people who DO have it.

i know Shotty GoBang, Smooth Assassin, and Lightning xVx have it, and there's bound to be more.


King Amaterasu has it, I'm pretty sure Fusion Commander has it, and I will have it soon! XD]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:59:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565826
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by DEZKA DIABLO]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884306#post1884306 TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.

i know, but i'm looking for the people who DO have it.

i know Shotty GoBang, Smooth Assassin, and Lightning xVx have it, and there's bound to be more.

I have4 but not sure is 5 worth it?]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:47:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565774
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by DEZKA DIABLO]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884296#post1884296 TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.

i know, but i'm looking for the people who DO have it.

i know Shotty GoBang, Smooth Assassin, and Lightning xVx have it, and there's bound to be more.

I have4 but not sure is 5 worth it?]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:43:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565773
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Godin Thekiller]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884235#post1884235 Patrick57 wrote:
I thought it decreased rate of fire O_O


why would it decrease the ROF? that seems stupid.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:22:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565724
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Godin Thekiller]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884233#post1884233 Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:21:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565723 <![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Lightning xVx]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884172#post1884172 Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.


I do.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:58:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565652
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Johnny Guilt]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884166#post1884166 Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:57:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565651 <![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Aero Yassavi]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884164#post1884164 Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:56:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565650 <![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884157#post1884157 Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:53:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565649 <![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Awry Barux]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1884007#post1884007 Soldier Sorajord wrote:
Awry Barux wrote:
Patrick57 wrote:
I thought it decreased rate of fire O_O


If you check out the weapon spreadsheets in feedback/requests, CCP internally measures ROF in time between shots, not RPM as stated in the weapon info. Therefore a reduction to ROF = reduced time between shots = higher RPM.

That logic makes no sense Lol.


I mean, they're misusing the word rate, but other than that it makes lots of sense from a game engine perspective- of course it's measured as the amount of time the gun has to wait between shots, that's what the game cares about.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:01:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565514
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Soldier Sorajord]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1883999#post1883999 Awry Barux wrote:
Patrick57 wrote:
I thought it decreased rate of fire O_O


If you check out the weapon spreadsheets in feedback/requests, CCP internally measures ROF in time between shots, not RPM as stated in the weapon info. Therefore a reduction to ROF = reduced time between shots = higher RPM.

That logic makes no sense Lol.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:58:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565443
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Awry Barux]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1883995#post1883995 Patrick57 wrote:
I thought it decreased rate of fire O_O


If you check out the weapon spreadsheets in feedback/requests, CCP internally measures ROF in time between shots, not RPM as stated in the weapon info. Therefore a reduction to ROF = reduced time between shots = higher RPM.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:57:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565441
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1883997#post1883997 Chunky Munkey wrote:
How many people do you really think have Prof5?

You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.

i know, but i'm looking for the people who DO have it.

i know Shotty GoBang, Smooth Assassin, and Lightning xVx have it, and there's bound to be more.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:57:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565442
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Chunky Munkey]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1883990#post1883990
You probably know how fast it'll be more than 99% of the entire community.]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:56:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565440
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Awry Barux]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1883979#post1883979 TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
how fast does it shoot? i would've had it a long time ago, but i instead skilled into proto plasma cannons with some proficiency.

i'm so excited, because i did the calculations and i'm going to have it by tomorrow! i have proficiency IV and it already fires really fast, so i can't wait to find out find out fast proficiency V shoots! Big smile


Well, I'm going to go ahead and say it probably makes it about 3% faster LolRoll]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:50:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565439
<![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by Patrick57]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1883974#post1883974 Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:48:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565438 <![CDATA[Shotgun Proficiency V - by TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR]]> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1883970#post1883970
i'm so excited, because i did the calculations and i'm going to have it by tomorrow! i have proficiency IV and it already fires really fast, so i can't wait to find out find out fast proficiency V shoots! Big smile]]>
Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:47:00 +0000 dustsearch/guid/1565437