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Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 134	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:22:00 - [1] - Quote Dust and eve interact somewhat... Cool. But developing dust under the same ideas eve was founded upon... Stupid In order to make a successful fps it has to be made like a fps, treated like a fps. This is where ccp fails. Unless ccp gets into the fps mindset and stray from mmo, it wont get better. Respecs are needed to keep the game alive, this game blocks us from content not because its overwhelming with content, you literally cant "fully" spec into something without painfully grinding for almost half a year. This is not how you go about developing a fps on a console. This game will flop going in the direction it is unless ccp takes a dose of their own meds. "adapt or die." Ps: i know the topic title is bad lol, but the point is clear.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6939	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:26:00 - [2] - Quote http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/08/01/terrafugia-transition-flying-car-makes-first-public-flight/ bad analogy.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 450	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:30:00 - [3] - Quote great! another one of these...threads. You guys never miss your quotas. meanwhile, the people still enjoying this wish you guys would quit already. The people that plan to stick out for the long haul needs to be heard. Not you guys. LOL, its like, what you developed? What game are you making? Oh you not?? Please be quiet then...
Salt2131 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 31	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:35:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/08/01/terrafugia-transition-flying-car-makes-first-public-flight/ bad analogy. Its a perfect analogy: cars Gëá planes, the invention or existence of car-plane has no significance to the legitimacy of his analogy.
Mary Sedillo Pure Innocence. EoN. 200	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:40:00 - [5] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Dust and eve interact somewhat... Cool. But developing dust under the same ideas eve was founded upon... Stupid In order to make a successful fps it has to be made like a fps, treated like a fps. This is where ccp fails. Unless ccp gets into the fps mindset and stray from mmo, it wont get better. Respecs are needed to keep the game alive, this game blocks us from content not because its overwhelming with content, you literally cant "fully" spec into something without painfully grinding for almost half a year. This is not how you go about developing a fps on a console. This game will flop going in the direction it is unless ccp takes a dose of their own meds. "adapt or die." Ps: i know the topic title is bad lol, but the point is clear. So... you want a respec? As much as I love my fellow allies... I disagree. Its an MMOFPS and should stay that way. COD and BF do pure FPS better. Perhaps you could try them out?
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 135	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:41:00 - [6] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: great! another one of these...threads. You guys never miss your quotas. meanwhile, the people still enjoying this wish you guys would quit already. The people that plan to stick out for the long haul needs to be heard. Not you guys. LOL, its like, what you developed? What game are you making? Oh you not?? Please be quiet then... im not for the long haul? I have 18 mil sp bought tons of boosters, thats when this game was looking good. Unlike many i have no plans to quit dust, but if dust going to survive on console this is what needs to happen.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 135	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:50:00 - [7] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Dust and eve interact somewhat... Cool. But developing dust under the same ideas eve was founded upon... Stupid In order to make a successful fps it has to be made like a fps, treated like a fps. This is where ccp fails. Unless ccp gets into the fps mindset and stray from mmo, it wont get better. Respecs are needed to keep the game alive, this game blocks us from content not because its overwhelming with content, you literally cant "fully" spec into something without painfully grinding for almost half a year. This is not how you go about developing a fps on a console. This game will flop going in the direction it is unless ccp takes a dose of their own meds. "adapt or die." Ps: i know the topic title is bad lol, but the point is clear. So... you want a respec? As much as I love my fellow allies... I disagree. Its an MMOFPS and should stay that way. COD and BF do pure FPS better. Perhaps you could try them out? Rode the cod train for years, i play bf frequently. The rpg aspects are great, but the mmo mentality is ruining it, maybe because the game is not an mmo (yet) guess what im saying is its still a beta and should be treated so.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 453	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:51:00 - [8] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: great! another one of these...threads. You guys never miss your quotas. meanwhile, the people still enjoying this wish you guys would quit already. The people that plan to stick out for the long haul needs to be heard. Not you guys. LOL, its like, what you developed? What game are you making? Oh you not?? Please be quiet then... im not for the long haul? I have 18 mil sp bought tons of boosters, thats when this game was looking good. Unlike many i have no plans to quit dust, but if dust going to survive on console this is what needs to happen. But Dust is going to survive. Shouldn't you consider that grind another piece of worth to the Dust gameplay? Yes, its bittersweet. More bitter than sweet at first, but that should promote more game playing time. I don't know. I've played BF and COD. Not saying I'm an expert at FPS games but what I am saying is this: I have put plenty hours into both games. Not once did me and other players in the same predicament complain about having new content. They released map packs and that's about it. We dealt with it over there. Heck people can pick up MW3 and still have a thriving community. Then you come to Dust, and everybody wants new content. Huh? But you're content to keep playing the same TDM and CTF in other games for extended periods of time and when you get bored, you break and then return? But now Dust needs more content? I just don't understand the double standards here.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 135	Posted - 2013.08.05 01:06:00 - [9] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: great! another one of these...threads. You guys never miss your quotas. meanwhile, the people still enjoying this wish you guys would quit already. The people that plan to stick out for the long haul needs to be heard. Not you guys. LOL, its like, what you developed? What game are you making? Oh you not?? Please be quiet then... im not for the long haul? I have 18 mil sp bought tons of boosters, thats when this game was looking good. Unlike many i have no plans to quit dust, but if dust going to survive on console this is what needs to happen. But Dust is going to survive. Shouldn't you consider that grind another piece of worth to the Dust gameplay? Yes, its bittersweet. More bitter than sweet at first, but that should promote more game playing time. I don't know. I've played BF and COD. Not saying I'm an expert at FPS games but what I am saying is this: I have put plenty hours into both games. Not once did me and other players in the same predicament complain about having new content. They released map packs and that's about it. We dealt with it over there. Heck people can pick up MW3 and still have a thriving community. Then you come to Dust, and everybody wants new content. Huh? But you're content to keep playing the same TDM and CTF in other games for extended periods of time and when you get bored, you break and then return? But now Dust needs more content? I just don't understand the double standards here. Im not talking about new content, im talking about existing content (roles) imo core mechanics need to be worked out before any new content is released.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 457	Posted - 2013.08.05 01:19:00 - [10] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: great! another one of these...threads. You guys never miss your quotas. meanwhile, the people still enjoying this wish you guys would quit already. The people that plan to stick out for the long haul needs to be heard. Not you guys. " The people that plan to stick out for the long haul" actually ruined the game. I had more fun with skirmish 1.0 and the old mechanics.

dday3six Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 169	Posted - 2013.08.05 01:26:00 - [11] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Dust and eve interact somewhat... Cool. But developing dust under the same ideas eve was founded upon... Stupid In order to make a successful fps it has to be made like a fps, treated like a fps. This is where ccp fails. Unless ccp gets into the fps mindset and stray from mmo, it wont get better. Respecs are needed to keep the game alive, this game blocks us from content not because its overwhelming with content, you literally cant "fully" spec into something without painfully grinding for almost half a year. This is not how you go about developing a fps on a console. This game will flop going in the direction it is unless ccp takes a dose of their own meds. "adapt or die." Ps: i know the topic title is bad lol, but the point is clear. So... you want a respec? As much as I love my fellow allies... I disagree. Its an MMOFPS and should stay that way. COD and BF do pure FPS better. Perhaps you could try them out? Yep, I just said this: dday3six wrote: ...You know frankly I see "Dust isn't the game for you", or some derivative being told to several players. So who is it for? And furthermore how is that exclusionary outlook actually healthy for the game... It applies here too. I wonder how many people will get told this before there's nearly no one left?
tribal wyvern ZionTCD 967	Posted - 2013.08.05 02:16:00 - [12] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Dust and eve interact somewhat... Cool. But developing dust under the same ideas eve was founded upon... Stupid In order to make a successful fps it has to be made like a fps, treated like a fps. This is where ccp fails. Unless ccp gets into the fps mindset and stray from mmo, it wont get better. Respecs are needed to keep the game alive, this game blocks us from content not because its overwhelming with content, you literally cant "fully" spec into something without painfully grinding for almost half a year. This is not how you go about developing a fps on a console. This game will flop going in the direction it is unless ccp takes a dose of their own meds. "adapt or die." Ps: i know the topic title is bad lol, but the point is clear. Behold! The title on game launch 'EVE dust 514'
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3506	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:00:00 - [13] - Quote And who are you to decide what is considered a first-person shooter and what isn't considered an MMO? And who are you to decide which culture doesn't work in which genre? This is New Eden. **** the traditional rules of first-person shooters.
Skihids Bullet Cluster 1827	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:37:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/08/01/terrafugia-transition-flying-car-makes-first-public-flight/ bad analogy. That's not a flying car, it's a roadable plane. It's designed to be able to drive/hanger at home or the like, but it's not a car and it doesn't substitute for one. Frankly, the two have polar opposite engineering requirements and we won't see a true flying car in our lifetime.
First Prophet Valor Company Incorporated 763	Posted - 2013.08.05 03:48:00 - [15] - Quote Apples are not oranges. True story. I read it on a snapple cap.
dustwaffle Gravity Prone EoN. 284	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:00:00 - [16] - Quote Oh look, thread # 890147329872 on the same whining. Read it here, in all its original glory!
KING SALASI MAJOR DISTRIBUTION 180	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:20:00 - [17] - Quote This game will be left with the eve players lol have fun with that. CCP original plans was the PS3 community guess that plan is out the window. Oh well off to GTA IV playing the Ballard of Gay Tony awesome dlc btw. Can't wait for GTA V.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 453	Posted - 2013.08.05 04:23:00 - [18] - Quote Just another AR fanboy who wants to nerf vehicles out of existence. Perhaps you should go back to CoD...
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 812	Posted - 2013.08.05 13:49:00 - [19] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Mary Sedillo wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Dust and eve interact somewhat... Cool. But developing dust under the same ideas eve was founded upon... Stupid In order to make a successful fps it has to be made like a fps, treated like a fps. This is where ccp fails. Unless ccp gets into the fps mindset and stray from mmo, it wont get better. Respecs are needed to keep the game alive, this game blocks us from content not because its overwhelming with content, you literally cant "fully" spec into something without painfully grinding for almost half a year. This is not how you go about developing a fps on a console. This game will flop going in the direction it is unless ccp takes a dose of their own meds. "adapt or die." Ps: i know the topic title is bad lol, but the point is clear. So... you want a respec? As much as I love my fellow allies... I disagree. Its an MMOFPS and should stay that way. COD and BF do pure FPS better. Perhaps you could try them out? Rode the cod train for years, i play bf frequently. The rpg aspects are great, but the mmo mentality is ruining it, maybe because the game is not an mmo (yet) guess what im saying is its still a beta and should be treated so. Beta and unfinished are two different things. We are done with beta because they say so just like it is released when they say so. If they waited until it was "finished" it would never release.
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 812	Posted - 2013.08.05 13:56:00 - [20] - Quote Skihids wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/08/01/terrafugia-transition-flying-car-makes-first-public-flight/ bad analogy. That's not a flying car, it's a roadable plane. It's designed to be able to drive/hanger at home or the like, but it's not a car and it doesn't substitute for one. Frankly, the two have polar opposite engineering requirements and we won't see a true flying car in our lifetime. It's called a helicopter. We will never have flying cars because the drivers we have now don't keep up with car maintenance, drive while intoxicated and are dangerous to begin with. Flying cars will probably never exist because of these reasons and if they do they will be very expensive and heavily regulated. Helicopters are flying cars and we don't need real ones.

Hasa Hakira Dust2Dust. Top Men. 37	Posted - 2013.08.05 14:00:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/08/01/terrafugia-transition-flying-car-makes-first-public-flight/ bad analogy. Id rather agree on his analogy http://kotaku.com/5876693/every-game-studio-thats-closed-down-since-2006
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6957	Posted - 2013.08.05 14:03:00 - [22] - Quote Hasa Hakira wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/08/01/terrafugia-transition-flying-car-makes-first-public-flight/ bad analogy. Id rather agree on his analogy http://kotaku.com/5876693/every-game-studio-thats-closed-down-since-2006 That list is very incomplete it seems.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 531	Posted - 2013.08.05 14:18:00 - [23] - Quote wahh wahh wahh wahh
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2294	Posted - 2013.08.05 14:44:00 - [24] - Quote Oh look, another "Do what I say and Dust will live" thread.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 551	Posted - 2013.08.05 15:24:00 - [25] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Dust and eve interact somewhat... Cool. But developing dust under the same ideas eve was founded upon... Stupid In order to make a successful fps it has to be made like a fps, treated like a fps. This is where ccp fails. Unless ccp gets into the fps mindset and stray from mmo, it wont get better. Respecs are needed to keep the game alive, this game blocks us from content not because its overwhelming with content, you literally cant "fully" spec into something without painfully grinding for almost half a year. This is not how you go about developing a fps on a console. This game will flop going in the direction it is unless ccp takes a dose of their own meds. "adapt or die." Ps: i know the topic title is bad lol, but the point is clear. So... you want a respec? As much as I love my fellow allies... I disagree. Its an MMOFPS and should stay that way. COD and BF do pure FPS better. Perhaps you could try them out? idk, but most of the actually successful FPS games with RPG elements had some sort of respec in one way or another. Sure they're not "MMOs", but dust doesn't exactly have a world based interaction system where you have thousands of people playing in one large map...it's a lot like CoD where you only participate with other humans in combat.


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