Yeah, bunny hopping around is the pinnacle of combat tactics
Real combat tactics include everything up to the engagement and the engagement itself, setting up ambush points, flanking the enemy, all that stuff is combat tactics
Bouncing around like a 10 year old with ADD and spraying bullets everywhere is not

instead of bringing the stats of the TAC down why not increase the stats of the AR?

CCP you messed up the guns and now have to mess it up AGAIN to compensate....

Just increase the range of the ARs and decrease the damage of the TAR, it's simple.
I never saw anyone use a TACAR before you destroyed the assault rifles.

Or how about this, why not have considered what you were doing to the range of the ARS before you nerfed them!?
You caused this and now we have to suffer because of it.

I'll just use a Duvolle instead though and then people will complain about that!

You can't win like this CCP you're going about it the wrong way.

So they're hitting it on multiple fronts then claiming they don't want to over-nerf.

I think CCP needs to learn how to alter ONLY ONE ASPECT AT A TIME to see the impact of something.

ONE CHANGE.

ONE.

Reduce the RoF, see what happens.
If it needs more, reduce clip size as well, then see what happens.

ONE.
CHANGE.
AT.
A.
TIME.

Well said.

Also, everyone in this thread should keep in mind CCP Cmdr Wang's post about range changes that are going in that will bring engagement ranges back up for all weapons.

With everything able to do at least some damage at longer ranges, these changes are probably all that will be needed.

Basically, if anyone QQs after the nerf, **** on them for being idiots. If you think getting killed at long range by a long range weapon is unfair, you need to go somewhere else.

*sigh*

it never was the TAC it was the 10 million SP and all the armor shields and damage bonuses that comes with it.

They will just switch back to an AR and everyone will claim the AR is OP even though it has not changed.

The crutch has always been the "1337" players being carried by the monstrous chasm between a few million SP and 10 million SP.

+1
Smartest idea I read on the forums in a while.

1000 DPS is crazy, you do not even understand.
This is the stuff that blaster turrets dish out.

As you all know, this weapon is the go to weapon for noobs, casuals, ringers, hardcore players, CPMs, pubs, PC, ect. We all bickered about the weapon because its too powerful but there has been a lack of proper reasoning beyond bable. Heres my bable:


The Duvolle Tac has 78.5 damage, pretty fair amount, a proto blaster turrent, the ion cannon. does 136.5. about half as much damage, seems ligit. But if you have pro 5 (3% damage increase per level) 78.5 raises to 90.275. If you are in the caldari or mini assult you have lots of high slots (4 and 5 respectably). Slap on 4 damage mods and 90.275 raises to 121.675 damage per shot.

Pro 5 is VERY easy to do and will basically be manditory with the respec and reduction in SP cost. 4 damage mods is ligit if your doing some support gunning behind the scenes, if you disagree it is certainly used in pubs. So with how easy this will be to obtain for alot of players, PC demands this exploit. In conclusion, DUST's most common battlefeild weapon can do more damage than ANY non proto blaster turrent. If you want more sheilds then take off a damage mod or 2 and your doing as much damage as low grade advanced tank turrents.

Lets compare this fit to an Ion Cannon.

This AR does 121.675 damage, only 14.85 damage less than an Ion Cannon
The Duvolle Tac has a 30 round clip wich is about equivilant in the volume of rounds of the ion cannon's coolent before it overheats.
Both have 100% perfect accuracy
Both can zoom
The Tac does not have a small blast but the Ion Cannon does
The rate of fire can be jus as bast as Ion Cannon with no damage/rof enhancer with a fast trigger (no skill required)
Both are hybrid weapons (does 100% damage to both sheilds and armor)

So these are very simular weapons, both doing simular amounts of damage, rate of fire and "clip" size.
If you really wanna, you can have a tank cannon in your hands. Choose your tank cannon and slap on the correct amount of damage mods, you have a blaster. The only diffrence is you can fit your Duvolle in tight spaces

Yay, I get to play test the new TAC in PC matches with a lot on the line! Almost as if this was a Beta still and we were play testing

The biggest problem with this fix is the clip size hit.
At longer distances, its harder to hit targets, and this weapon is intended for longer distances.
It usually takes 3/4 or a full clip to take down a moving target.
So reducing clip size will also damage the weapon at the long range, which is something you don't want to do.