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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:43:00 -
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There will always be a wide spectrum of SP levels and another wipe won't change that, it would only serve to alienate the dedicated beta players who have devoted a huge amount of time and effort to improve the game.
I've personally started from scratch five times, putting in many hours that could have been spent doing other activities. If another wipe were to be announced I would stop playing and likely not start again.
CCP is already running BPC events to boost play time, so I don't see them risking wholesale abandonment. Give it a rest, it isn't going to happen. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:44:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
Link to where it shows CCP getting legal issues for their BETA not being up to your standards please?
Link where anyone said they were having legal issues over that. I sure as hell never said that. You're just dumping your idiocy all over me. Than show me a link where they are having Legal issues over not keeping their word... If I cared enough to prove anything I would - but this is all minute to me. Especially since it's been a thread topic a thousand effin' times. The legal counter CCP put up is that 'commericial release' isn't defined as completely full release - but as a release in general. Weak counter. But hey - why am I talking this over with you, you're just a new berry with an opinion on a subject you don't know anything about apparently and need everything spoon fed to you.
Glad you keep tot he topic of CCP legal issues as the rest of your statements lead to nothing. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:49:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:As I said quite a few times IF CCP does not do a complete wipe that is fine I am not getting creamed and I am in PFB so I am clearly doing quite well for myself on Dust lol. I am already playing with the weakest suit in the game, I play it the way I keep being told NOT to use it. There is absolutely NOTHING they can do to effect me :) It is only uphill for me :)
PFB has a lot of scrubs and backpacks so claiming a tag does not give you any moral athority or standing (they took in nighteagle, they'll take anyone )
Also for the record I to started my sp on january 10th too. ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:52:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:I was here before most of you guys.... And I really don't care if they reset or not. Because unlike most of the people here I know what the **** a beta is, and have been in enough and wiped so many times I really don't care if they do.
The fact is ccp isn't doing anymore resets because the player base is a bunch of babies and cried cause their SP was getting reset.
And as 343 has put into practice in halo 4, resets, however much the minority QQ, does in fact give players incentive to play more, and actually boosts player numbers.
Not resetting SP in dust BETA is doing more harm than good explain? because ppl complained about newbies not having a chance due to vets stomping them SP isnt gonna change that we will still stomp them because we been here a year now and know exactly where to place our SP and dont have to stumble around figuring out **** resetting SP means everyone is back to grinding instant battle pubs for a month or 2 along with said newbies who will get worked by the vets and quit whereas currently when the game does officially "release" the vets will NOT be in instant battle but spending all their time in FW and PC which thus leaves the release newbies to be free of punishment and can possibly enjoy the game more now with me droppin that logic on ppl again do u really think an SP reset does more good than harm? it only takes a month or so to get infantry stuff up to a good lvl then they can join us in FW and PC but if we all stompin the **** outta newbies for that entire month or 2 to get back our **** they will leave cuz in any game when newbies get constantly raped the game is automatically a **** game
100% agree with this reasoning
I do think it better for the game to get the Vets out of pubbies with incentives like PC and FW.
This is much more beneficial for both new and older players. Otherwise you run the risk of reducing the player count and more importantly, ticking off the players who run corporations and / or can teach the new players and provide corp support.
Personally I could care less about being back on level again (it's actually kind of fun) but, at the same time, I don't want to go through the grind yet again either. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:02:00 -
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Jaiden Longshot wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Winscar Shinobi wrote:I was here before most of you guys.... And I really don't care if they reset or not. Because unlike most of the people here I know what the **** a beta is, and have been in enough and wiped so many times I really don't care if they do.
The fact is ccp isn't doing anymore resets because the player base is a bunch of babies and cried cause their SP was getting reset.
And as 343 has put into practice in halo 4, resets, however much the minority QQ, does in fact give players incentive to play more, and actually boosts player numbers.
Not resetting SP in dust BETA is doing more harm than good explain? because ppl complained about newbies not having a chance due to vets stomping them SP isnt gonna change that we will still stomp them because we been here a year now and know exactly where to place our SP and dont have to stumble around figuring out **** resetting SP means everyone is back to grinding instant battle pubs for a month or 2 along with said newbies who will get worked by the vets and quit whereas currently when the game does officially "release" the vets will NOT be in instant battle but spending all their time in FW and PC which thus leaves the release newbies to be free of punishment and can possibly enjoy the game more now with me droppin that logic on ppl again do u really think an SP reset does more good than harm? it only takes a month or so to get infantry stuff up to a good lvl then they can join us in FW and PC but if we all stompin the **** outta newbies for that entire month or 2 to get back our **** they will leave cuz in any game when newbies get constantly raped the game is automatically a **** game 100% agree with this reasoning I do think it better for the game to get the Vets out of pubbies with incentives like PC and FW. This is much more beneficial for both new and older players. Otherwise you run the risk of reducing the player count and more importantly, ticking off the players who run corporations and / or can teach the new players and provide corp support. Personally I could care less about being back on level again (it's actually kind of fun) but, at the same time, I don't want to go through the grind yet again either.
I feel where vets and you are coming from J. I have stated I am happy either way it really has become a troll now just to make this moron Sota pull more of his hair out, lol. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:03:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
It is not hurting you yet you are getting all defensive as if you are freaking out that POSSIBLY CCP could listen and implement this in future of commercial release.
the word you are looking for there is "butthurt" |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:06:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
It is not hurting you yet you are getting all defensive as if you are freaking out that POSSIBLY CCP could listen and implement this in future of commercial release.
the word you are looking for there is "butthurt"
Lol! It feels that way doesn't it? He has been attacking me with hateful words getting all defensive because I am only stating a simple opinion? |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:11:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:sharted pantaloon wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
It is not hurting you yet you are getting all defensive as if you are freaking out that POSSIBLY CCP could listen and implement this in future of commercial release.
the word you are looking for there is "butthurt" Lol! It feels that way doesn't it? He has been attacking me with hateful words getting all defensive because I am only stating a simple opinion? ? Are you over simplifying your insults at me for any reason? Pretty sure you've been underhandedly calling me a liar among other things. But I guess, people like you who think there TAG means something just make me sigh. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:21:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:sharted pantaloon wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
It is not hurting you yet you are getting all defensive as if you are freaking out that POSSIBLY CCP could listen and implement this in future of commercial release.
the word you are looking for there is "butthurt" Lol! It feels that way doesn't it? He has been attacking me with hateful words getting all defensive because I am only stating a simple opinion? ? Are you over simplifying your insults at me for any reason? Pretty sure you've been underhandedly calling me a liar among other things. But I guess, people like you who think there TAG means something just make me sigh.
Lol! What does my tag have anything to do with this? I merely stated I am in a good corp. I get kills. I am a decent player at this easy game. I am doing well for myself in Dust life, lol! You over here saying CCP is in court defending themselves from lawsuits or legal issues whatever but you have absolutely no proof at all. You are just making up crap and throwing them into your arguments and now you got called out caught with ya hand in the cookie jar.
My opinion isn't from a shallow or selfish POV. It is from seeing what my fellow gamers have to go through it is THEM who will increase the community. In a way we NEED THEM, THEY DON'T NEED US! If you want this game to last 10 years it will need a community that expands to do so. You can't have the same community it won't go strong for 10 years I promise ya this. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:24:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:sharted pantaloon wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
It is not hurting you yet you are getting all defensive as if you are freaking out that POSSIBLY CCP could listen and implement this in future of commercial release.
the word you are looking for there is "butthurt" Lol! It feels that way doesn't it? He has been attacking me with hateful words getting all defensive because I am only stating a simple opinion? ? Are you over simplifying your insults at me for any reason? Pretty sure you've been underhandedly calling me a liar among other things. But I guess, people like you who think there TAG means something just make me sigh. Lol! What does my tag have anything to do with this? I merely stated I am in a good corp. I get kills. I am a decent player at this easy game. I am doing well for myself in Dust life, lol! You over here saying CCP is in court defending themselves from lawsuits or legal issues whatever but you have absolutely no proof at all. You are just making up crap and throwing them into your arguments and now you got called out caught with ya hand in the cookie jar. No need to make more things up, First you were saying they were getting sued for not making a good beta, now they're in court! I merely said they're getting heat as a legal issue for wording themselves wrong and ultimately lying in there own deal - sorry I couldn't find you proof but oh well :)
And you brought up your corp tag first - not me. I just said I hope you have good gun game and you mentioned your tag. Top corp - no doubt - but even they have a few scrubs. Whose to say you're not one? ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:34:00 -
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buddha blezz wrote:i suggest resetting all SP when final game comes so new players will get a fair chance and it would stop AFK farming immediately as there would be no reason to do it anymore, it would be the most unpopular decision for all beta players , but the most fair for the full game players.
i know no more resets should be done , but that was if there wont be any issue , AFK farming imo is a valid reason for SP reset as it breaks the gameplay and economy of dust
1.) it does not break the economy as there ISN'T and economy to begin with. 2.) it is not a valid reason for a reset 3.) you basically just said "we should have a reset because I don't like being behind" and your using AFK farming as an excuse as to why your behind.
AFK farming is NO different from just making two or three alt PSN accounts to passive gain isk. But Nobody complains about that because almost everyone does it. AFK farming is like having a passive SP booster on. You gain more SP over time then you normally would, but at the end of the day that SP isn't really 'that' much.
Now if you had said something like "We should fix SP farming because its unfair to people who actually are playing" then your 'argument' would have a bit better of a foundation. But having a full game SP reset is literally out of the question.
Hey guys lets punish EVERYONE by resetting all of their SP simply because a select minority earned a fraction of their SP via SP farming..... does that make sense at all? ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
as for reasons why we SHOULDN'T have a reset..... its the most unpopular decision any of us could think of, and would be a game breaker for thousands. Ive been building this character for months and having that all wiped away because a few people abused the system is stupid. Id rather they keep the extra 50k SP they got over me if it means I can prevent days worth of time from being deleted. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:42:00 -
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Its a hard choice for CCP, Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Personally i learned the most through the baptism of fire i went through upon the vets kicking my behind.
Still got a lot to learn too but its not going to help if i get reset. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:53:00 -
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You clearly don't read a damn thing I type huh? Lol! In another post I state it could help CCP with one last attempt to reach out to gamers and build community so this would not be for the sole purpose of punishing AFK farmers there is multiple advantages in a complete reset. There IS also DISADVANTAGES of complete reset but those do not effect ME because I have skill to kill without SP or Proto. It is not that I have the patience of a SAINT I am no Saint by any means. I see it as I will be grinding SP for this game till it is no more so what's it matter if tomorrow is giving me 10mSP or 2MSP if everybody is on the same level what is the difference. YOU I think are being selfish sir you wanna be at the top but may depend on a advantage or may not who knows but it SOUNDS like you are seeking a advantage. The idea of being on everyones level scares you.
For those that are saying if the day comes a stat wipe hits you will say bye bye Dust. Than you must have never played a BETA before because there has never been a BETA of any game that has let the beta testers keep all Beta aquired accomplishments against commercial released players. IF this game does that than cool but who are we to give them a ultimatum do this or we are gone. I would look you in the face and go bye....
I am mostly new Jan10th player I have not been doing this for a year now but that argument is INVALID in this discussion because there WAS IN FACT a complete wipe yet here you are continue grinding. So again IF I was in CCP team I would say to you If you are giving me ultimatum..BYE. [/quote]
You are clearly a shithead who knows nothing about a gaming community. You know nothing of SP, and your call for a level playing field indicates a CoD way of thinking. Please go back to it, no one will miss you. Or HTFU. Not only that but...EvE has been a Beta for 10 years (with no resets) So...![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 17:55:00 -
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[/quote] You clearly don't read a damn thing I type huh? Lol! In another post I state it could help CCP with one last attempt to reach out to gamers and build community so this would not be for the sole purpose of punishing AFK farmers there is multiple advantages in a complete reset. There IS also DISADVANTAGES of complete reset but those do not effect ME because I have skill to kill without SP or Proto. It is not that I have the patience of a SAINT I am no Saint by any means. I see it as I will be grinding SP for this game till it is no more so what's it matter if tomorrow is giving me 10mSP or 2MSP if everybody is on the same level what is the difference. YOU I think are being selfish sir you wanna be at the top but may depend on a advantage or may not who knows but it SOUNDS like you are seeking a advantage. The idea of being on everyones level scares you.
For those that are saying if the day comes a stat wipe hits you will say bye bye Dust. Than you must have never played a BETA before because there has never been a BETA of any game that has let the beta testers keep all Beta aquired accomplishments against commercial released players. IF this game does that than cool but who are we to give them a ultimatum do this or we are gone. I would look you in the face and go bye....
I am mostly new Jan10th player I have not been doing this for a year now but that argument is INVALID in this discussion because there WAS IN FACT a complete wipe yet here you are continue grinding. So again IF I was in CCP team I would say to you If you are giving me ultimatum..BYE. [/quote]
You are clearly a shithead who knows nothing about a gaming community. You know nothing of SP, and your call for a level playing field indicates a CoD way of thinking. Please go back to it, no one will miss you. Or HTFU. Not only that but...EvE has been a Beta for 10 years (with no resets) So...![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:02:00 -
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They only said they wouldn't set people back at the level of starting character, but taking 1/2 or something out of your earned SP is fair game. CCP never said they would let people keep all of their SP.
And I do understand why they decided on no more resets. OB is supposed to be a stress test, it's kind of hard to stress test if none of your CB testers want to play the same old **** anymore. So they want fuq it and let you guys keep your SP since they figured it would be enough incentive to keep most of you around, it seems they were right.
That said, I really don't a Reset. I don't want to play another 2 months just to get back to where I'm currently at. And there's nothing stopping other people from downloading Dust and grinding themselves. I wouldn't complain about another reset, but I wouldn't like it. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:35:00 -
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Skihids wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:If only CCP had a way to detect inactivity, how funny would it be if all of a sudden everyone who AFK'd lost all SP they gained that way?
Omg I would die laughing. If you think about it, that would actually be a great deterrent for future AFK farming. We know CCP is working on an idle-detection system, so they can use logged matches to fine tune it and identify past occurrences at the same time. We also know that the biggest problem with such a system is the arms race between the AFKers and CCP, they create the detector and the AFKer finds a workaround. But now imagine that workaround is patched and all SP gained from it is removed!*Poof* All incentive to find the next workaround disappears. An initial wipe of AFK SP would serve as notice not to even try.
+1 on this idea if it's feasible. This seems like a way more approporiate action to take to deal w/ AFK farming. I think that resetting ALL SP upon commercial release just to deal w/ AFK farming would be too drastic an action to take. I'd be suprised if it was being considered as a solution to the AFK situation....
I've seen other arguments about an SP reset which make more sense (terms of some of the merc pack sales and how refunding those items may cause some folks to have more SP than they otherwise would be able to obtain if their boosters are refunded w/out an SP reset/adjustment)
But an SP reset for AFK farming or to keep the new players on-level seems like overkill. A fix to matchmaking and the new FW/PC content hopefully will address those issues.
But if I have to grind again, so be it, I'm prepared. If I was a longer term player though, I'd really be dreading it.
If there is a full reset, I think CCP should figure out some way to reward the CB testers (items, SP, whatever) and to a lesser extent OB testers. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:If there must be a SP reset then there must be an item reset.
are we just throwing out random wants now?
i think that you should be able to pay for weed with isk, ccp: get on it. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:52:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I'm a Newberry, kill me please!!!!! DUST University is thataway.
PS: DUST 514 is in Commercial Release just like PS Home. PS Home was in "BETA" forever (Still is....lol). CCP stated there will be no more Resets & consistently add "Deals" in the AUR Marketplace. I've seen a DUST 514 Commercial on TV. Commerce is made, Commercial was seen, Resets are Null, Math is done 4 u. NJoy finding a Lawyer w/ Coke Bottle Glasses that sweats waterfalls while timidly murmuring "objection...." under his/her breath at inopportune moments to defend your ignorance, Good Luck, KthxBAI :P |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:53:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:Double posted :P That's because you are rage-clicking that post button after typing a huge block of hate filled crap (my 2-Ñ)
My second thought: wtf is this 'afk farming' you are freaking out about? You mean people joining a match and sitting in the MCC or backfield and not participating in the game?
Aren't those players earning the same sp/sec you are? Aren't you earning a great deal more by fighting? How do you equate that with them having some kind of advantage?
I mean, this isn't like last October when teams of players were sitting in red zones banking up millions of sp repping lavs.
Where is the advantage today's afk players have over you?
Or is this about how new players are so far behind vet players when it comes to sp totals?
So, may 6 comes, lots of new players...we need a reset to make things 'fair'? What happens in six months with the next expansion? Reset? And a few months after that?
Stop thinking of yourself so much. I would ask you to think of the game and balance and market health, etc. but I don't think that's going to be possible
So, TLDR: I politely note your stated position and agree to disagree |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:55:00 -
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Ninjanomyx wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I'm a Newberry, kill me please!!!!! DUST University is thataway. PS: DUST 514 is in Commercial Release just like PS Home. PS Home was in "BETA" forever (Still is....lol). CCP stated there will be no more Resets & consistently add "Deals" in the AUR Marketplace. I've seen a DUST 514 Commercial on TV. Commerce is made, Commercial was seen, Resets are Null, Math is done 4 u. NJoy finding a Lawyer w/ Coke Bottle Glasses that sweats waterfalls while timidly murmuring "objection...." under his/her breath at inopportune moments to defend your ignorance, Good Luck, KthxBAI :P Another friend just threw this statement in my face earlier as well today lol Had no idea dust514 is advertised on TV! coolies. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:58:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:My second thought: wtf is this 'afk farming' you are freaking out about? You mean people joining a match and sitting in the MCC or backfield and not participating in the game?
Aren't those players earning the same sp/sec you are? Aren't you earning a great deal more by fighting? How do you equate that with them having some kind of advantage?
It's more of a "fair" thing, as it isn't very fair for someone who doesn't play to be rewarded almost as well as someone who does.
Also, this makes games like skirmish significantly less enjoyable when you've got people hanging back not contributing to anything. I personally would much rather have the horrible nooby who goes 0/18 on my team than the AFK who goes 0/0. Sure, we may lose terribly, but at least that guy was trying.
That said, AFK farming is a HORRIBLE excuse for a full reset. |
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DUST Fiend wrote:howard sanchez wrote:My second thought: wtf is this 'afk farming' you are freaking out about? You mean people joining a match and sitting in the MCC or backfield and not participating in the game?
Aren't those players earning the same sp/sec you are? Aren't you earning a great deal more by fighting? How do you equate that with them having some kind of advantage?
It's more of a "fair" thing, as it isn't very fair for someone who doesn't play to be rewarded almost as well as someone who does. Also, this makes games like skirmish significantly less enjoyable when you've got people hanging back not contributing to anything. I personally would much rather have the horrible nooby who goes 0/18 on my team than the AFK who goes 0/0. Sure, we may lose terribly, but at least that guy was trying. That said, AFK farming is a HORRIBLE excuse for a full reset. Id of prefer the 0/18 guy to go AFK myself lol Least the AFK guy isn't confusing me on wether or not my back is covered xD |
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i don't think i could take another reset after months of the bug bullshit.
in a year it won't matter anyways. forget it.
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Posted - 2013.04.01 19:28:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Id of prefer the 0/18 guy to go AFK myself lol Least the AFK guy isn't confusing me on wether or not my back is covered xD
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Posted - 2013.04.01 19:29:00 -
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buddha blezz wrote:i suggest resetting all SP when final game comes so new players will get a fair chance and it would stop AFK farming immediately as there would be no reason to do it anymore, it would be the most unpopular decision for all beta players , but the most fair for the full game players.
i know no more resets should be done , but that was if there wont be any issue , AFK farming imo is a valid reason for SP reset as it breaks the gameplay and economy of dust
How do you SP farm on a game that gives pqssive SP? If I made a toon on day one of open and turned on passive SP and then waited till today to start is that farming? How about squad leaders and tank gunners that get no kills, is that farming? I know it is from being a logi and healing mercs or maybe from being in proto with complex mods. Who cares about farmers? They either suck and the SP makes no difference or they are good and the SP makes no difference. Either way no one can tell how much SP anyone has. You may have an idea based on the suit or weapon but even that does not give you a number. If it did what would that number mean in the long run? All of this crap about farming and resets moakes no sense. Some people have more and some have less. It is called life, grow a pair. We could reset today and in 4 months the same people would be saying the same things about the SP gap and poor noods.
The economy is broken because it is not dependent on normal market forces. Supply and demand is how markets work. Anything else is broken. We have supply but no demand.
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Posted - 2013.04.01 19:32:00 -
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Skihids wrote:There will always be a wide spectrum of SP levels and another wipe won't change that, it would only serve to alienate the dedicated beta players who have devoted a huge amount of time and effort to improve the game.
I've personally started from scratch five times, putting in many hours that could have been spent doing other activities. If another wipe were to be announced I would stop playing and likely not start again.
CCP is already running BPC events to boost play time, so I don't see them risking wholesale abandonment. Give it a rest, it isn't going to happen.
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:The dark cloud wrote:would no work out cause you just would make your thumbstick stuck so that your char is constantly moving. My opinion is when you havent earned at least 150WP on skirmish then you wont get any SP at all. ive seen someone get 0 kills 18 deaths and 0 WPs in a corp battle lol there are ppl out there that bad to struggle to get that even while playin ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) Talking about yourself there mav? ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
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Yay Adski wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:The dark cloud wrote:would no work out cause you just would make your thumbstick stuck so that your char is constantly moving. My opinion is when you havent earned at least 150WP on skirmish then you wont get any SP at all. ive seen someone get 0 kills 18 deaths and 0 WPs in a corp battle lol there are ppl out there that bad to struggle to get that even while playin ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) Talking about yourself there mav? ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
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I have been crushed and only got 50WP and I have been on winning team where the top 7 were so good no one else got kills and I got 50 WP. The door swings both ways. I have been in matches where I come in first, my average is top ten between both squads.
Bender "Life is hilariously cruel."
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