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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:26:00 -
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Well i specced a bit into armor tanks and i just cant get them to work. My main problems with them are: -increased damage from AV grenades and swarms -insane slow (a shield tank performs like a LAV compared to that) -no HP regen -less DPS then shield tanks -way to much hassle to manage all the active modules
in my opinion armor tanks are not really that good. They just have to many downsides. I will stick to my shield tanks cause i like to get out of nasty situations faster. Another thing is shield tanks are much better to manage with their modules. I even start to think that a large missile turret would tear them apart pretty quickly. The only good things about armor tanking is that your reps are very good and that the active resistance runs for 1 minute. That beeing sayd the only situation where they exceel is against a other shield tank which has a blaster. On Railgun fights they loose due to their low DPS, infantry can take them out very easy with swarms and AV grenades. Well i think there is a reason why a fully fit armor tank costs less then a shield variant tank. |
Gusk Hevv
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:30:00 -
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Thank you for your respect kind sir , I have been unable to tell CCP that Armor needs a huge improvement , the same problem persists in EVE too; please CCP hear us Armor tankers out we need some Armor love ASAP. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:37:00 -
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Welcome to the dark side. I ran armor tanks in the past and I'll continue to do so... It's more challenging imo. But with the right fit, its borderline insane. lol
Everything kills an armor tank. Specially the speed penalty. Things to watch out for OB and swarms. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:39:00 -
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Hopefully speed picks up a bit when we get armour waffling skills. |
KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
344
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:40:00 -
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I feel like most dedicated armor tanks use a keyboard, which is the equivalent of a modded controller.
No respects from me. |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:43:00 -
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Gusk Hevv wrote:Thank you for your respect kind sir , I have been unable to tell CCP that Armor needs a huge improvement , the same problem persists in EVE too; please CCP hear us Armor tankers out we need some Armor love ASAP. Isn't armor the go-to for PvP in EVE? Generally I don't consider the favorite for something to be in need of love. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:43:00 -
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I run both types
It totally depends how you play with these tanks, i find shield to be more like glass than armor even tho everything can hurt armor
Plus armor burning annoys the hell out of me
Either way AV is dead annoying and so are WBS |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
86
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:59:00 -
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Halador Osiris wrote:Gusk Hevv wrote:Thank you for your respect kind sir , I have been unable to tell CCP that Armor needs a huge improvement , the same problem persists in EVE too; please CCP hear us Armor tankers out we need some Armor love ASAP. Isn't armor the go-to for PvP in EVE? Generally I don't consider the favorite for something to be in need of love.
Armor is the way to go in group pvp due to being able to rep ships with enormous buffer plates stacked ontop and the medium slots can be used to tackle ships that get too close, a shield fitted ship has to forsake tank in order to carry tackle equipment.
Not to mention armor has better resistances.
But solo, shields still way to go for pvp & pve. |
noob 45
Syndicate of Gods
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:59:00 -
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You guys are joking right? Either that or you don't know how to build a proper tank. Armor tank > Shield tank. Been messing around with a Soma recently and it is more capable than my gunloggi. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1135
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:30:00 -
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Yeah right a shield tank with a good railgun and damage mods pops a armor tank in seconds. And that from far away. The thing is shield tanks can still maintain a decent amount of shields while having really high DPS. Add the overall improved mobility and you just have the better tank. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:42:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Yeah right a shield tank with a good railgun and damage mods pops a armor tank in seconds. And that from far away. The thing is shield tanks can still maintain a decent amount of shields while having really high DPS. Add the overall improved mobility and you just have the better tank.
Why do ppl still believe this?
Tank vs tank same around fit the armor tank will win, considering that the shield tank may have resistance fitted on it if they are not passive they need to be activated and if you time it wrong they cannot be used for 30secs so you have just given them a big window
With the rail tank fights being about who sees who 1st it doesnt matter if the shield can put on proper tank if its resistancs are off it will go in 3 shots, same with the armor tank anyways
The armor tank is slower but for a straight TD and nothing else its the best one to go for |
TheBLAZZED
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:43:00 -
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Armor is not weak especially in tank battles. I own 95% of shields I come across but only 50% armor and that's only because of sneakyness and AV support. Noobs in soma's don't count btw. |
That fine fellow
Forgotten Militia
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Posted - 2013.03.13 22:38:00 -
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I'll admit, armour tanking can be a hassle because of the dozens of modules I need to throw up constantly.
Thanks for your respect though man. Personally, I don't care what your tank fit is [shield w/ rails, armour w/ blasters, w/e]. If it's good, and you blow me the hell up, either through a damned good fight or a quick insta-death, I don't rage; you earn my respect. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
346
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Posted - 2013.03.13 23:02:00 -
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Use a kb and everything is solved. Really anyone who thinks armor is inferior to shield really isn't using them right. A bit more difficult to manage cause of all the actives, maybe but able to absorb damage from even the mightiest of AV and shell out a nasty DPS at the proto level.
cmon dark cloud i thought you were a good tanker that understood the game.
Edit- With regards to rail vs blaster, throw that rail on a armor tank(completely nonsensical i know and then tell me who wins) hull vs hull the armor is superior.
Now with regards to where a shield rail defeats an armor blaster thats like talking about a LR vs an AR its all about the ranges and whos in whos optimal.
If the armor closes the gap preactivates the right boosters then yea he may not out dps your rail but he'll survive it long enough to overcome in total DPS output because of what it can absorb and what it will shell out on your shields. |
Beld Errmon
UnReaL.
524
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Posted - 2013.03.13 23:24:00 -
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KryptixX wrote:I feel like most dedicated armor tanks use a keyboard, which is the equivalent of a modded controller.
No respects from me.
The controller controls need fixing don't hate the KB because CCP messed up your vibrator.
Armour Tanks are terrible and everyone with sense should spec into shield tanks... *hides his madruger* |
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