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Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:04:00 -
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Why put time into a game I can spend what? 5-7 pounds and be as good as people who have put time into the game? better yet why do that, militia gear is incredibly cheap or even free and is as good as AUR items.
This maybe me ranting but I'm not the only one who see's something wrong with that? why should I bother spending so much isk on a good loadout when I can pick any of the starter kits and kill people as if I'm using a prototype weapon |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:04:00 -
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um.... how long have you been playing...
AUR items are only as good as isk gear but takes less sp to use
militia gear sucks, hard |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:06:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Why put time into a game I can spend what? 5-7 pounds and be as good as people who have put time into the game? better yet why do that, militia gear is incredibly cheap or even free and is as good as AUR items.
This maybe me ranting but I'm not the only one who see's something wrong with that? why should I bother spending so much isk on a good loadout when I can pick any of the starter kits and kill people as if I'm using a prototype weapon You're assuming that money buys your ability to play the game itself.
Good, go ahead and spend that much on this game to get top tier stuff and then watch as I still steamroll you because you DIDN'T PUT ANY TIME INTO ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:09:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Why put time into a game I can spend what? 5-7 pounds and be as good as people who have put time into the game? better yet why do that, militia gear is incredibly cheap or even free and is as good as AUR items.
This maybe me ranting but I'm not the only one who see's something wrong with that? why should I bother spending so much isk on a good loadout when I can pick any of the starter kits and kill people as if I'm using a prototype weapon
*sniff sniff* I smell a newberry |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:10:00 -
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since last month and hammered it but just seems like I only get killed by militia, I even tear someone in half with my HMG or he downs me with a militia assault rifle. Maybe I'm just raging but feels pointless spending time skilling up for good gear when in comparison and in game use their as effective as the stuff you started with.
I made a pilot character just to drive a tank, he has no combat skills other than what he maybe had to begin with and I'm fighting on par or better than the people I get put up against. Alright the dropsuit and modules ain't super but the guns are more than enough
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Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:11:00 -
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I mean yeah I've gone through games with 20/4 K/D in my loadout but just infuriates me when I get pinged off from a distance by a militia assault rifle |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:12:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Why put time into a game I can spend what? 5-7 pounds and be as good as people who have put time into the game? better yet why do that, militia gear is incredibly cheap or even free and is as good as AUR items.
This maybe me ranting but I'm not the only one who see's something wrong with that? why should I bother spending so much isk on a good loadout when I can pick any of the starter kits and kill people as if I'm using a prototype weapon *sniff sniff* I smell a newberry
Only about a month or so new, Came top in more than enough games to make me happy but I'm not the only one who thinks Militia weapons are better than what their supposed to be |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:14:00 -
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Quite a few people still use militia gear because they don't want to spend good suits on pub matches or matches that they aren't winning. That doesn't take away from the player's given skills at playing the game though. They may be more prone to dying because instead of say 350 shields they have 200 shields, but if they're any good, there's really no changing that.
I don't really see the point in playing in militia only stuff unless you're fighting a losing battle, to be honest. I like the thrill of the potential for losing my stuff. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
47
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:15:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Why put time into a game I can spend what? 5-7 pounds and be as good as people who have put time into the game? better yet why do that, militia gear is incredibly cheap or even free and is as good as AUR items.
This maybe me ranting but I'm not the only one who see's something wrong with that? why should I bother spending so much isk on a good loadout when I can pick any of the starter kits and kill people as if I'm using a prototype weapon You're assuming that money buys your ability to play the game itself. Good, go ahead and spend that much on this game to get top tier stuff and then watch as I still steamroll you because you DIDN'T PUT ANY TIME INTO ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME.
I don't pay for anything I'm playing only with what the bare game has, I'm earning my score, SP and Gear by playing, Just making a point |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
47
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:17:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Quite a few people still use militia gear because they don't want to spend good suits on pub matches or matches that they aren't winning. That doesn't take away from the player's given skills at playing the game though. They may be more prone to dying because instead of say 350 shields they have 200 shields, but if they're any good, there's really no changing that.
I don't really see the point in playing in militia only stuff unless you're fighting a losing battle, to be honest. I like the thrill of the potential for losing my stuff.
I agree, I love that there is a consequence to dying in this, which annoys me more that people can play using starting gear where all my gear is from skills and I don't have an advantage, I know thats sounds childish but the point of an MMORPG is that players who put time into the game and get the better gear are better stat wise to people who don't. |
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:22:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:since last month and hammered it but just seems like I only get killed by militia, I even tear someone in half with my HMG or he downs me with a militia assault rifle. Maybe I'm just raging but feels pointless spending time skilling up for good gear when in comparison and in game use their as effective as the stuff you started with.
I made a pilot character just to drive a tank, he has no combat skills other than what he maybe had to begin with and I'm fighting on par or better than the people I get put up against. Alright the dropsuit and modules ain't super but the guns are more than enough
If you fit out your higher tier sutis with nothing but damage mods expect to be droped by miltiia gear
If you fit tanking mods you won't get killed as easily by militia gear, it's not too hard to understand. Your dropsuit is only as good as you fit it. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:25:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Quite a few people still use militia gear because they don't want to spend good suits on pub matches or matches that they aren't winning. That doesn't take away from the player's given skills at playing the game though. They may be more prone to dying because instead of say 350 shields they have 200 shields, but if they're any good, there's really no changing that.
I don't really see the point in playing in militia only stuff unless you're fighting a losing battle, to be honest. I like the thrill of the potential for losing my stuff. I agree, I love that there is a consequence to dying in this, which annoys me more that people can play using starting gear where all my gear is from skills and I don't have an advantage, I know thats sounds childish but the point of an MMORPG is that players who put time into the game and get the better gear are better stat wise to people who don't. I see what you're saying. There has been quite a bit of rumbling from the community because of the gap between Militia, Standard, Advanced, and Prototype gear that is basically non-existent. Nowadays the only thing you really upgrade for is extra slots. |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:25:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Quite a few people still use militia gear because they don't want to spend good suits on pub matches or matches that they aren't winning. That doesn't take away from the player's given skills at playing the game though. They may be more prone to dying because instead of say 350 shields they have 200 shields, but if they're any good, there's really no changing that.
I don't really see the point in playing in militia only stuff unless you're fighting a losing battle, to be honest. I like the thrill of the potential for losing my stuff. I agree, I love that there is a consequence to dying in this, which annoys me more that people can play using starting gear where all my gear is from skills and I don't have an advantage, I know thats sounds childish but the point of an MMORPG is that players who put time into the game and get the better gear are better stat wise to people who don't. So put the time in, grind SP and ISK, and run proto gear. Just don't expect it to allow you to kill players with better gun game. |
Myles Aarne
Amarrican Ground Forces I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:25:00 -
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In EVE my favorite ship is a Gallente rookie ship -- But kitted with tech 2 drones and 150mm railguns.
The way I see it, some really good players are going to win with militia gear, others are going to win with Prototype quality gear. And some are going to suck pondwater regardless. To each their own; why should I tell other people how to have their fun? |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:32:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Quite a few people still use militia gear because they don't want to spend good suits on pub matches or matches that they aren't winning. That doesn't take away from the player's given skills at playing the game though. They may be more prone to dying because instead of say 350 shields they have 200 shields, but if they're any good, there's really no changing that.
I don't really see the point in playing in militia only stuff unless you're fighting a losing battle, to be honest. I like the thrill of the potential for losing my stuff. So, this is a game that has a fairly long life span planned for it by CCP hence the limit on SP, and we're less than a month into the open beta, and you're angry that it's militia weapons held in militia suits that's doing the killing. What else do you think is going to be happening.
Some people are saving ISK to buy skill books, or saving up for when they're in advanced equipment as you can expect a fully fitted A-series to easily break 100,000 ISK per pop, or maybe saving it for Corp. matches, etc. This is a game of choices.
There's not suppose to be some massive gap between the weapon tiers, and passive skills add a massive amount to damage output and survivability. At level 5 weaponry in weaponry, and if a complex damage module is installed in a suit, a militia rifle has a 20% increase in damage. Add in a level 4/5 in assault rifle operations with 2/3 level of sharpshooter and the player can get very tight bolt grouping.
It's not just the weapon is Dust that makes the difference, it's how wisely SP is allocated and more importantly, player skill. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:39:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Quite a few people still use militia gear because they don't want to spend good suits on pub matches or matches that they aren't winning. That doesn't take away from the player's given skills at playing the game though. They may be more prone to dying because instead of say 350 shields they have 200 shields, but if they're any good, there's really no changing that.
I don't really see the point in playing in militia only stuff unless you're fighting a losing battle, to be honest. I like the thrill of the potential for losing my stuff. So, this is a game that has a fairly long life span planned for it by CCP hence the limit on SP, and we're less than a month into the open beta, and you're angry that it's militia weapons held in militia suits that's doing the killing. What else do you think is going to be happening. Some people are saving ISK to buy skill books, or saving up for when they're in advanced equipment as you can expect a fully fitted A-series to easily break 100,000 ISK per pop, or maybe saving it for Corp. matches, etc. This is a game of choices. There's not suppose to be some massive gap between the weapon tiers, and passive skills add a massive amount to damage output and survivability. At level 5 weaponry in weaponry, and if a complex damage module is installed in a suit, a militia rifle has a 20% increase in damage. Add in a level 4/5 in assault rifle operations and the player can get very tight bolt grouping. And it's not just the weapon is Dust that makes the difference, it's how wisely SP is allocated and more importantly, player skill. ....I think you may have misunderstood my tone in my message. I'm not complaining. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:48:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Quite a few people still use militia gear because they don't want to spend good suits on pub matches or matches that they aren't winning. That doesn't take away from the player's given skills at playing the game though. They may be more prone to dying because instead of say 350 shields they have 200 shields, but if they're any good, there's really no changing that.
I don't really see the point in playing in militia only stuff unless you're fighting a losing battle, to be honest. I like the thrill of the potential for losing my stuff. So, this is a game that has a fairly long life span planned for it by CCP hence the limit on SP, and we're less than a month into the open beta, and you're angry that it's militia weapons held in militia suits that's doing the killing. What else do you think is going to be happening. Some people are saving ISK to buy skill books, or saving up for when they're in advanced equipment as you can expect a fully fitted A-series to easily break 100,000 ISK per pop, or maybe saving it for Corp. matches, etc. This is a game of choices. There's not suppose to be some massive gap between the weapon tiers, and passive skills add a massive amount to damage output and survivability. At level 5 weaponry in weaponry, and if a complex damage module is installed in a suit, a militia rifle has a 20% increase in damage. Add in a level 4/5 in assault rifle operations and the player can get very tight bolt grouping. And it's not just the weapon is Dust that makes the difference, it's how wisely SP is allocated and more importantly, player skill. ....I think you may have misunderstood my tone in my message. I'm not complaining. Sorry, I quoted the wrong person. I'd read the quote from below, read the rest of the thread, fast scrolled back up and this^ happened. I use the best I'm able to as well. Some people I know are sitting on over 30million ISK. I've all my possible future skill books bought, ~4 million in the bank, and all my suits are being pushed to the limit. Happy days I regularly post at the wrong thing, but maybe this will be the last one.
Coleman Gray wrote:since last month and hammered it but just seems like I only get killed by militia, I even tear someone in half with my HMG or he downs me with a militia assault rifle. Maybe I'm just raging but feels pointless spending time skilling up for good gear when in comparison and in game use their as effective as the stuff you started with.
I made a pilot character just to drive a tank, he has no combat skills other than what he maybe had to begin with and I'm fighting on par or better than the people I get put up against. Alright the dropsuit and modules ain't super but the guns are more than enough
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Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:52:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Sorry, I quoted the wrong person. I'd read the quote from below, read the rest of the thread, fast scrolled back up and this^ happened. I use the best I'm able to as well. Some people I know are sitting on over 30million ISK. I've all my possible future skill books bought, ~4 million in the bank, and all my suits are being pushed to the limit. Happy days I regularly post at the wrong thing, but maybe this will be the last one.
No worries boss Happens to the best of us. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:55:00 -
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Sorry Oxskull I think I may have suffered from an bad case of rage :P now I've had a brew ect and been thinking on it, if most of the enemy use militia then chances are when I do die chances are could be simply a militia gun got the last hit on me |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:11:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Sorry Oxskull I think I may have suffered from an bad case of rage :P now I've had a brew ect and been thinking on it, if most of the enemy use militia then chances are when I do die chances are could be simply a militia gun got the last hit on me Haha, I know the feeling Coleman. I got a bad dose of it earlier on. Enjoy the brew and I'll see ya in battle sometime. I promise I'll use a Gek |
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:12:00 -
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also lets at least wait a couple weeks, prototype gear might not even be in the game anymore by then if you listen to how the devs are talking.
oh why oh why is this game open beta allready :P |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:13:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Sorry Oxskull I think I may have suffered from an bad case of rage :P now I've had a brew ect and been thinking on it, if most of the enemy use militia then chances are when I do die chances are could be simply a militia gun got the last hit on me Haha, I know the feeling Coleman. I got a bad dose of it earlier on. Enjoy the brew and I'll see ya in battle sometime. I promise I'll use a Gek
FFFFFFFFFF...Gek..bane of my existence :P |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:14:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:also lets at least wait a couple weeks, prototype gear might not even be in the game anymore by then if you listen to how the devs are talking.
oh why oh why is this game open beta allready :P
lol be harsh to get rid of the prototype stuff D: gives people something to really work for |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
431
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:15:00 -
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The current business model of the game is this:
- entice people to play their game by making it free. What do they have to lose when it's free?
- place certain things in the game that give slight leeway to the player who uses them accessible only through purchasing using money.
CCP is only making money off of AUR and perhaps Sony, so getting rid of AUR and AUR items in essence gets rid of the game because how else would CCP make money off a free to play game? |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:18:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:The current business model of the game is this:
- entice people to play their game by making it free. What do they have to lose when it's free?
- place certain things in the game that give slight leeway to the player who uses them accessible only through purchasing using money.
CCP is only making money off of AUR and perhaps Sony, so getting rid of AUR and AUR items in essence gets rid of the game because how else would CCP make money off a free to play game?
I just needed to rage and make a scene :P mostly the rage thing |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2013.02.06 00:23:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Why put time into a game I can spend what? 5-7 pounds and be as good as people who have put time into the game? better yet why do that, militia gear is incredibly cheap or even free and is as good as AUR items.
This maybe me ranting but I'm not the only one who see's something wrong with that? why should I bother spending so much isk on a good loadout when I can pick any of the starter kits and kill people as if I'm using a prototype weapon If you take a bit more time to look you will see that Militia gear takes more CPU and PG to use.
This itself makes it less good than Standard gear, even though it has similar stats as far as DMG and such. If you change to Standard gear you will find you can fit more gear tot he same suit.
There is nothing wrong with Militia gear or AUR gear. They are balanced in a very smart way. They will help you catch up to people who have played longer in a way that is not OP, and yet is still worth the money if you decide to put money into the game. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
673
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Posted - 2013.02.06 05:44:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Why put time into a game I can spend what? 5-7 pounds and be as good as people who have put time into the game? better yet why do that, militia gear is incredibly cheap or even free and is as good as AUR items.
This maybe me ranting but I'm not the only one who see's something wrong with that? why should I bother spending so much isk on a good loadout when I can pick any of the starter kits and kill people as if I'm using a prototype weapon *sniff sniff* I smell a newberry Only about a month or so new, Came top in more than enough games to make me happy but I'm not the only one who thinks Militia weapons are better than what their supposed to be
I'm just dickin with ya bro it may seem that militia weapons are op but you have to take into account that there are also the skills associated with increasing weapon damage, reload speed, clip size etc. There are two skills especially that when skilled up to lvl 5 on both, increases weapon damage by 50%. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.02.06 05:48:00 -
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I call BS.
I have AUR and Militia stuff and they are no better than the ISK variants. Hell, I only use the AUR/militia stuff to save ISK so that I can one day blow 20,000,000 ISK on an stack of all-Prototype Nova Knifing scout fits. |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
158
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Posted - 2013.02.06 06:15:00 -
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AUR items are in the game to help CCP make money off this game and militia gear is there so you don't have to run naked onto the battlefield if you run out of money. Good day. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.02.06 06:31:00 -
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AUR buys you stuff as good as, what tech 1?
You save isk, but I can't say that makes it as good as proto
Also, can't BPO tanks |
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