DUST Search - help me get the lag facility removed completely

deezy dabest wrote:

Alcina Nektaria wrote:

deezy dabest wrote:

There was definitely a connection between SSDs and the issues on that map. Every time I got it I would talk to the people who managed to complete the match with me and only about 1 out of 50 did not have a SSD.

I think it may have also been partly due to deleting and reinstalling the game which is fairly common among SSD users who are trying their hardest to get a good experience but I never got those people together and did a survey to know for sure. I have to wonder if this is the same thing going on with the Gal Lag Facility.

EDIT:

If you have made the switch to a SSD I highly recommend you delete and reinstall Dust entirely along with rebuilding the database on your PS3. This weirdly increases performance specially if you installed to the SSD from a backup.

You kinda have to install dust anyway when you switch out your HD for an SSD, in fact you even have to install the entire PS3 interface......
Which means errrythang is fresh and shinay.
Dust has been running 800000000x's better since I got my SSD.

The most common method of switching to a SSD is to just use the system back up function.

You obviously installed from the PUP file which means you already have not only a fresh Dust install but a fresh database as well meaning you are on the most optimal setup.

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Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 963	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:03:00 - [1] - Quote its about time we get rid of it, nobody likes it and it lags every single time not only do I have to deal with TAR's and ScR's but I have to do it while I get 1 frame every other second lag is bad enough as it is without having to deal with this map it get ridiculous very quickly however I cant even believe that its the map as I only ever start to lag whenever I come across some scrub firing a semi auto weapon as if its full auto or if its someone that I imagine has a ping that's over 900 because even when I fire directly at them and unload a full clip with damge animation taking place and them reacting to it but they only take 20 damge at point blank range anyway I shouldn't need to rant lets just get a petition going to get the darn map removed asap click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:19:00 - [2] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: its about time we get rid of it, nobody likes it and it lags every single time not only do I have to deal with TAR's and ScR's but I have to do it while I get 1 frame every other second lag is bad enough as it is without having to deal with this map it get ridiculous very quickly however I cant even believe that its the map as I only ever start to lag whenever I come across some scrub firing a semi auto weapon as if its full auto or if its someone that I imagine has a ping that's over 900 because even when I fire directly at them and unload a full clip with damge animation taking place and them reacting to it but they only take 20 damge at point blank range anyway I shouldn't need to rant lets just get a petition going to get the darn map removed asap Actually it is one of the smoothest running maps for me. Then again so was the MCC map. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 963	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:21:00 - [3] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Actually it is one of the smoothest running maps for me. Then again so was the MCC map. maybe you're the problem.... it has already been confirmed that there are obvious problems with the map and it has even been removed from PC there is no reason for it to stick around click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:25:00 - [4] - Quote DUST 514, where performance issues are fixed by stripping everything out of the game until it's 32 people on a plain white featureless field.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Nikushimi no Noroi 2	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:28:00 - [5] - Quote What ever happened to the MCC map .?. I can't remember the last time I was placed on that map . Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:28:00 - [6] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Actually it is one of the smoothest running maps for me. Then again so was the MCC map. maybe you're the problem.... it has already been confirmed that there are obvious problems with the map and it has even been removed from PC there is no reason for it to stick around Some where in the crazy setup that has become my PS3 I solved the problem. My current setup is: Samsung 840 pro SSD PS3 Hardwired to a 5ghz 802.11 ac bridge connecting to a dual band router with throughput prioritization enabled. PS3 to AverTV HD DVR in a very beefy PC. PC to 4k tv set down to 1080p @ 120hz If you want to spend about $6000 replicating everything so you to can have the ultimate gaming experience I would be very happy to share all specs. Here is my monitor setup. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:30:00 - [7] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: What ever happened to the MCC map .?. I can't remember the last time I was placed on that map . It got removed because it auto booted anyone that did not have an SSD. I had some of the most fun 4v4 matches on that map ever. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 963	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:45:00 - [8] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Actually it is one of the smoothest running maps for me. Then again so was the MCC map. maybe you're the problem.... it has already been confirmed that there are obvious problems with the map and it has even been removed from PC there is no reason for it to stick around Some where in the crazy setup that has become my PS3 I solved the problem. My current setup is: Samsung 840 pro SSD PS3 Hardwired to a 5ghz 802.11 ac bridge connecting to a dual band router with throughput prioritization enabled. PS3 to AverTV HD DVR in a very beefy PC. PC to 4k tv set down to 1080p @ 120hz If you want to spend about $6000 replicating everything so you to can have the ultimate gaming experience I would be very happy to share all specs. Here is my monitor setup. I just got out of another match in the lag facility I can conclude that no enemies makes for smooth performance which reinforces my main point that it is due in fact to certain players possibly with high ping that make everyone lag and certainly the map is in some way affected by these players, nothing is conclusive but I can say for sure that playing against some players makes me lag more then others click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 963	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:46:00 - [9] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: What ever happened to the MCC map .?. I can't remember the last time I was placed on that map . It got removed because it auto booted anyone that did not have an SSD. I had some of the most fun 4v4 matches on that map ever. this is false the performance of that map did not change for me with either HDD or SSD and the people getting booted were likely using older model PS3's click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:48:00 - [10] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Actually it is one of the smoothest running maps for me. Then again so was the MCC map. maybe you're the problem.... it has already been confirmed that there are obvious problems with the map and it has even been removed from PC there is no reason for it to stick around Some where in the crazy setup that has become my PS3 I solved the problem. My current setup is: Samsung 840 pro SSD PS3 Hardwired to a 5ghz 802.11 ac bridge connecting to a dual band router with throughput prioritization enabled. PS3 to AverTV HD DVR in a very beefy PC. PC to 4k tv set down to 1080p @ 120hz If you want to spend about $6000 replicating everything so you to can have the ultimate gaming experience I would be very happy to share all specs. Here is my monitor setup. I just got out of another match in the lag facility I can conclude that no enemies makes for smooth performance which reinforces my main point that it is due in fact to certain players possibly with high ping that make everyone lag and certainly the map is in some way affected by these players, nothing is conclusive but I can say for sure that playing against some players makes me lag more then others Yes, high ping times and poor upload has a serious effect on the people around them. I will not get into how but I have accidentally "lag switched" the game a few times. What I did is how people do it in PC and can not believe that CCP has built a game that functions in this way. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++

deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 17:53:00 - [11] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: deezy dabest wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: What ever happened to the MCC map .?. I can't remember the last time I was placed on that map . It got removed because it auto booted anyone that did not have an SSD. I had some of the most fun 4v4 matches on that map ever. this is false the performance of that map did not change for me with either HDD or SSD and the people getting booted were likely using older model PS3's There was definitely a connection between SSDs and the issues on that map. Every time I got it I would talk to the people who managed to complete the match with me and only about 1 out of 50 did not have a SSD. I think it may have also been partly due to deleting and reinstalling the game which is fairly common among SSD users who are trying their hardest to get a good experience but I never got those people together and did a survey to know for sure. I have to wonder if this is the same thing going on with the Gal Lag Facility. EDIT: If you have made the switch to a SSD I highly recommend you delete and reinstall Dust entirely along with rebuilding the database on your PS3. This weirdly increases performance specially if you installed to the SSD from a backup. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 668	Posted - 2015.09.02 18:25:00 - [12] - Quote I would rather see the underlying issue, the memory leak.on that socket, fixed rather than have another map pulled. Purifier. First Class.
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 920	Posted - 2015.09.02 18:27:00 - [13] - Quote just played it and even with fibre optic broadband it's very, very laggy doesn't help when SCRUBS like absollom clone camp the roof the entire ******* game with a mass driver and you've mregonmies going 18-14 with core nades and REs, scrubs.
Count- -Crotchula TasteTheTamsen 920	Posted - 2015.09.02 18:30:00 - [14] - Quote I have nothing on my PS3 but DUST, I'm using a wired fibre optic connection, 500mbps BPL adaptors with built-in QoS, I just know that a brand new PS3 with SSD would be a waste of time, it will improve things but the lag facility is inherently broken.
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 260	Posted - 2015.09.02 18:36:00 - [15] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: There was definitely a connection between SSDs and the issues on that map. Every time I got it I would talk to the people who managed to complete the match with me and only about 1 out of 50 did not have a SSD. I think it may have also been partly due to deleting and reinstalling the game which is fairly common among SSD users who are trying their hardest to get a good experience but I never got those people together and did a survey to know for sure. I have to wonder if this is the same thing going on with the Gal Lag Facility. EDIT: If you have made the switch to a SSD I highly recommend you delete and reinstall Dust entirely along with rebuilding the database on your PS3. This weirdly increases performance specially if you installed to the SSD from a backup. You kinda have to install dust anyway when you switch out your HD for an SSD, in fact you even have to install the entire PS3 interface...... Which means errrythang is fresh and shinay. Dust has been running 800000000x's better since I got my SSD. *KEQ Diplomat and Director* *ROFL. Diplomat and Red Button Pusher*
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 18:41:00 - [16] - Quote Alcina Nektaria wrote: deezy dabest wrote: There was definitely a connection between SSDs and the issues on that map. Every time I got it I would talk to the people who managed to complete the match with me and only about 1 out of 50 did not have a SSD. I think it may have also been partly due to deleting and reinstalling the game which is fairly common among SSD users who are trying their hardest to get a good experience but I never got those people together and did a survey to know for sure. I have to wonder if this is the same thing going on with the Gal Lag Facility. EDIT: If you have made the switch to a SSD I highly recommend you delete and reinstall Dust entirely along with rebuilding the database on your PS3. This weirdly increases performance specially if you installed to the SSD from a backup. You kinda have to install dust anyway when you switch out your HD for an SSD, in fact you even have to install the entire PS3 interface...... Which means errrythang is fresh and shinay. Dust has been running 800000000x's better since I got my SSD. The most common method of switching to a SSD is to just use the system back up function. You obviously installed from the PUP file which means you already have not only a fresh Dust install but a fresh database as well meaning you are on the most optimal setup. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 260	Posted - 2015.09.02 18:45:00 - [17] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Alcina Nektaria wrote: deezy dabest wrote: There was definitely a connection between SSDs and the issues on that map. Every time I got it I would talk to the people who managed to complete the match with me and only about 1 out of 50 did not have a SSD. I think it may have also been partly due to deleting and reinstalling the game which is fairly common among SSD users who are trying their hardest to get a good experience but I never got those people together and did a survey to know for sure. I have to wonder if this is the same thing going on with the Gal Lag Facility. EDIT: If you have made the switch to a SSD I highly recommend you delete and reinstall Dust entirely along with rebuilding the database on your PS3. This weirdly increases performance specially if you installed to the SSD from a backup. You kinda have to install dust anyway when you switch out your HD for an SSD, in fact you even have to install the entire PS3 interface...... Which means errrythang is fresh and shinay. Dust has been running 800000000x's better since I got my SSD. The most common method of switching to a SSD is to just use the system back up function. You obviously installed from the PUP file which means you already have not only a fresh Dust install but a fresh database as well meaning you are on the most optimal setup. IMO this is how everyone should do it. It takes just about the same amount of time, but just knowing how technology works, why wouldn't anyone want to do it this way? It seems silly if you are just backing up the database with all it's current problems to begin with. The way I see it, with normal and hybrid HDS you have the issue of fragmentation, where you don't with SSD so unless you do a defrag on the hds before backing up, you're bound to have issues with corrupt files. *KEQ Diplomat and Director* *ROFL. Diplomat and Red Button Pusher*
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 364	Posted - 2015.09.02 21:50:00 - [18] - Quote No
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 22:01:00 - [19] - Quote Alcina Nektaria wrote: IMO this is how everyone should do it. It takes just about the same amount of time, but just knowing how technology works, why wouldn't anyone want to do it this way? It seems silly if you are just backing up the database with all it's current problems to begin with. The way I see it, with normal and hybrid HDS you have the issue of fragmentation, where you don't with SSD so unless you do a defrag on the hds before backing up, you're bound to have issues with corrupt files. Fragmentation is not an issue because the backup images compresses everything into a single full system image anyway which is then decompressed with the restore utility. Obviously something happens in the database which causes the system run run less efficiently with Dust and possibly other games. This is quickly resolved with a rebuild. The reason for a fresh install of Dust is because the update process leaves behind lots of extra data which at minimum slows read times. So the same effect can be gotten without having to download all of your other games. The only thing that may make that not true is if the Sony OS also leaves remnants behind which may or may not be a very large issue considering the OS runs almost completely from ram at could easily only load what is needed. Basically your desired method comes down to how much music, pictures, games, web downloads, and so on that you have which would make the restore function the optimal choice instead of spending days restoring all of that data manually. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 963	Posted - 2015.09.02 22:05:00 - [20] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: No people that make everyone else lag and have it easy "no keep it I like that map" everyone else "fk this f***g lag" click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's

deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.09.02 22:18:00 - [21] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: No people that make everyone else lag and have it easy "no keep it I like that map" everyone else "fk this f***g lag" In general you are one of the few people left having big problems. When was the last time you deleted and reinstalled Dust? When was the last time you rebuilt the database on your PS3? How much other data do you have on your system? How many chats do you keep open? How many contacts do you have? Do you restock often during battle? What PS3 model do you have? Do you ever clean the air intake and exhaust on your ps3? I am just trying to say that maybe instead of yelling delete we should be trying to figure out what things those that do not have lag have in common as well as finding out what people that do lag have in common. It is obvious that that map takes up more resources or has a memory leak that is affecting performance more seriously for some. ++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
axis alpha Neural Union 918	Posted - 2015.09.02 22:47:00 - [22] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: its about time we get rid of it, nobody likes it and it lags every single time not only do I have to deal with TAR's and ScR's but I have to do it while I get 1 frame every other second lag is bad enough as it is without having to deal with this map it get ridiculous very quickly however I cant even believe that its the map as I only ever start to lag whenever I come across some scrub firing a semi auto weapon as if its full auto or if its someone that I imagine has a ping that's over 900 because even when I fire directly at them and unload a full clip with damge animation taking place and them reacting to it but they only take 20 damge at point blank range anyway I shouldn't need to rant lets just get a petition going to get the darn map removed asap Actually it is one of the smoothest running maps for me. Then again so was the MCC map. Same here. I agree with both statements. The lag facility should be removed from Dom. Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu. Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!
Sicerly Yaw Corrosive Synergy No Context 967	Posted - 2015.09.03 08:33:00 - [23] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: No people that make everyone else lag and have it easy "no keep it I like that map" everyone else "fk this f***g lag" In general you are one of the few people left having big problems. When was the last time you deleted and reinstalled Dust? When was the last time you rebuilt the database on your PS3? How much other data do you have on your system? How many chats do you keep open? How many contacts do you have? Do you restock often during battle? What PS3 model do you have? Do you ever clean the air intake and exhaust on your ps3? I am just trying to say that maybe instead of yelling delete we should be trying to figure out what things those that do not have lag have in common as well as finding out what people that do lag have in common. It is obvious that that map takes up more resources or has a memory leak that is affecting performance more seriously for some. well you are incorrect I have done everything I can to improve performance on my end so stop trying to make it seem like its my fault, the map has already been confirmed to be worse then others I have lag on other maps too but not as often as I do on that map and I know its not on my part because like I said I went back to back in the same map same game mode different opponents and I only lagged the first match so clearly there's something more to it them you think you may think that you know everything about how the game works and you may not lag as much as others do but that is more likely due to your location rather then anything else and because this game is unique in many aspects that I am sure you are hardly even aware of the specs of your machine don't make that big of a difference also don't get me wrong I am not getting frame rate drops and I am inclined to blame it on ping due to certain players not taking any damge while others with more or less the same amount of hp take the full damge even when lagging I could go ahead and answer all those questions but I have already stated my specs before and I can assure you that I take care of my system click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 1	Posted - 2015.09.03 09:35:00 - [24] - Quote Start reporting mod controller using scrubs, it's what I plan to do :D The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)


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