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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:20:00 -
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Concerning the Semi-Automatics ( Viziam & Other ScR Semi's )
Instead of Nerfing Damage !! Nerf the Max or Create a Max RoF ! The problem I have seen here is many people will use a modded controller with this Gun & they'll shoot it like a damn AR, Do not Nerf the Dmg, Nerf the Max RoF. During this the ScR may need a tiny Dmg buff, But I highly doubt that.
Concerning The Fully Automatics ( Carthum & Others )
[*] This ScR is Preforming up to it's capabilities, although it seems as if the Dmg dropped on it. It may be that I took off my Dmg mods. I'll update this later. |
Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:26:00 -
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What?
Who said the DcR is getting nerfed?
It seems perfect right now.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:34:00 -
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I've been seeing lots of complaining about the ScR but nobody says what type. They always end up nerfing the Carthum but not the Viziam. The damage dealt is fine. It just needs a Max RoF. So people who Have modded controllers cant kill you in 1sec with an Automatic Viziam. |
Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.29 20:55:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:I've been seeing lots of complaining about the ScR but nobody says what type. They always end up nerfing the Carthum but not the Viziam. The damage dealt is fine. It just needs a Max RoF. So people who Have modded controllers cant kill you in 1sec with an Automatic Viziam.
Ah. Back to the modded controllers...
No.
Honestly, I'm getting the feeling that some people don't come fully to terms with how fast other people can fire the ScR. I haven't seen a single modded controller user with an ScR since the RoF was nerfed earlier.
And either way, the TacAR would be better to use with a modded controller anyway, so I doubt the ScR is even attracting ANY of the modded controller users everyone but me seems to find. It has a higher max DPS, and just relaods for 2.5 seconds instead of overhears for 5 seconds.
Tl;dr Modded controller users AR few and far between and they would be using the TacAR anyways.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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Hector Carson
THE DESOLATION OF EDEN
93
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Posted - 2014.11.30 02:58:00 -
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Increase overheat cost
nuff said
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
852
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Posted - 2014.11.30 04:43:00 -
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Another nerf!!! What is it this time, this gun is fine as is.
No one does it better than PIE
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"Gravity released me. Don't ever hold me down."
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.11.30 13:08:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Another nerf!!! What is it this time, this gun is fine as is.
It's not fine... from my experience .. never has been 'fine'
It kills half of the suit types in game, way to fast, the DMG it deals for a semi-auto rifle is stupid..
The ScR is too good players need to quit pointing at modded controllers
Or the lame defence, 'but it may overheat, so it needs to be OP'
To be honest I'm surprised it's been left this long - The amount of DMG achieved through charging is too much
The fact a ScR user can miss 10+ shots and insta-kill you on the 11th is B.S
- Does a CR/RR have the ability to OHK Gal/Am medium/light suits ... no
- Yet because of 'whut?' the ScR easily drops Mn/Cal medium/light suits?? even shield Heavies are screwed by it
IMO, the only hope of balancing the ScR would be to re-work it's stats completely ..
I like the mechanics of it but the alpha DMG is too much for a Light Infantry Rifle..
How many mercs have the sense to see there is need for changes with ScR???
Likely not enough, compared to the butthurt a ScR nerf would cause... |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.30 13:23:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Another nerf!!! What is it this time, this gun is fine as is. It's not fine... from my experience .. never has been 'fine' It kills half of the suit types in game, way to fast, the DMG it deals for a semi-auto rifle is stupid.. The ScR is too good players need to quit pointing at modded controllers Or the lame defence, 'but it may overheat, so it needs to be OP' To be honest I'm surprised it's been left this long - The amount of DMG achieved through charging is too much The fact a ScR user can miss 10+ shots and insta-kill you on the 11th is B.S - Does a CR/RR have the ability to OHK Gal/Am medium/light suits ... no - Yet because of 'whut?' the ScR easily drops Mn/Cal medium/light suits?? even shield Heavies are screwed by it IMO, the only hope of balancing the ScR would be to re-work it's stats completely .. I like the mechanics of it but the alpha DMG is too much for a Light Infantry Rifle.. How many mercs have the sense to see there is need for changes with ScR??? Likely not enough, compared to the butthurt a ScR nerf would cause...
I don't think I have ever seen you in a suit that is not a Minmatar scout.
I am concerned you may be quite partial here, given the SCR is one of the worst threats a Minscout can face.
"Miss 10+ shots and insta-kill you on the 11th"
No, I'm sorry, this does not happen and is blatantly impossible. Even if the 11th shot is a charge shot, in which case they spent 2 seconds mid-fight charging to get a 250 damage shot off (a terrible tactic) they are not going to instakill you.
The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
1252
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Posted - 2014.11.30 13:25:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Another nerf!!! What is it this time, this gun is fine as is. It's not fine... from my experience .. never has been 'fine' It kills half of the suit types in game, way to fast, the DMG it deals for a semi-auto rifle is stupid.. The ScR is too good players need to quit pointing at modded controllers Or the lame defence, 'but it may overheat, so it needs to be OP' To be honest I'm surprised it's been left this long - The amount of DMG achieved through charging is too much The fact a ScR user can miss 10+ shots and insta-kill you on the 11th is B.S - Does a CR/RR have the ability to OHK Gal/Am medium/light suits ... no - Yet because of 'whut?' the ScR easily drops Mn/Cal medium/light suits?? even shield Heavies are screwed by it IMO, the only hope of balancing the ScR would be to re-work it's stats completely .. I like the mechanics of it but the alpha DMG is too much for a Light Infantry Rifle.. How many mercs have the sense to see there is need for changes with ScR??? Likely not enough, compared to the butthurt a ScR nerf would cause...
Yeah, well in that case, I think the DPS of the CR is too high as well...
Way too high for a Light Infantry Rifle.
Its damage should be cut to like 20.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1521
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:24:00 -
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I understand the suit is half the issue, I have given up caring when my Minja is blapped
- Min.Logi (dual tanked for the most part)
- Cal.Ass (another shield, un-surprising a ScR hurts it)
^^ but I face off with an Ak.0.. I have to RR through upto 1000armour.. One ScR shot ends my shield tank 
- Amarr.Scout (not enough Hp to surive much, but even 500hp on won't last a ScR fight)
So as you can see in some cases I do ask for the pain via Shield tanking..
But any of those suits will die very easily to ScR fire, even on my alts old setup Am.Logi/Ass
You could not stand much chance against ScR fire due to the obscene amounts of DMG it hits via charging
- Where does the ScR fit into game balance?? I really don't see how CCP consider the base ScR acceptable.
- Also, I'm not just looking at my own suit use - as Arkena knows I'm not too fussed respawning...
I have no issue being killed in a fight, working as intended it's a perk of being a clone 
- My opinion on ScR is based on how I see it used in-game, and thats usually someone flanking a point farming kills
I just see no platform for ScR use - it isn't the best PC option due to lag/super stafing
While it is one of the best weapons for pub-stomping, because it kills 50% of the suit types too easily
- I have prof. in ScR, I refuse to use the Viziam because the base ScR makes a BrAR seem UP
- I don't want the gun removed/ruined but I can not agree with it's performance in battle.. |
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1195
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:33:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Concerning the Semi-Automatics ( Viziam & Other ScR Semi's ) Instead of Nerfing Damage !! Nerf the Max or Create a Max RoF ! The problem I have seen here is many people will use a modded controller with this Gun & they'll shoot it like a damn AR, Do not Nerf the Dmg, Nerf the Max RoF. During this the ScR may need a tiny Dmg buff, But I highly doubt that.
Concerning The Fully Automatics ( Carthum & Others ) This ScR is Preforming up to it's capabilities, although it seems as if the Dmg dropped on it. It may be that I took off my Dmg mods. I'll update this later.
Seriously dude, I see like 1 ScR user per match, 2 maximum. What really needs nerfing is that devilish Breach Ar.
Chocolate Juice
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Valor Goat
0
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:38:00 -
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The ScR itself is fine.
The fact of being able to triple damage mod is what makes it clearly OP.
And of course, who would put extenders on highs when you can just put dem damage mods?
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Crashy Mc Boom-bewm
The United Socialist Liberation Front
76
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Posted - 2014.11.30 14:54:00 -
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The ScR is fine as is. its hard enough killing armored units, just think if it got a nerf
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Y-BLOCK
BioCyberDevelopment
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Posted - 2014.11.30 20:16:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Concerning the Semi-Automatics ( Viziam & Other ScR Semi's ) Instead of Nerfing Damage !! Nerf the Max or Create a Max RoF ! The problem I have seen here is many people will use a modded controller with this Gun & they'll shoot it like a damn AR, Do not Nerf the Dmg, Nerf the Max RoF. During this the ScR may need a tiny Dmg buff, But I highly doubt that.
Concerning The Fully Automatics ( Carthum & Others ) This ScR is Preforming up to it's capabilities, although it seems as if the Dmg dropped on it. It may be that I took off my Dmg mods. I'll update this later.
Dude Hotfix Delta nerfed the rof down to 600 becuz of the turbo users, which left the Scrambler Rifle with an unintended heat build up nerf, plus Im pretty sure they slightly nerfed the damage profile as well.
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