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Clone D 471	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:02:00 - [1] - Quote Are you guys running out of ammo a lot because there is such a large population of heavies in the game now? I am unloading a full CR clip and 13 SCP rounds into these heavies and it still doesn't take them down. I am astounded at the amount of ammo required to drop these guys. .
Yeeeuuuupppp 383	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:47:00 - [2] - Quote Turn aim assist back on. You seem to be having trouble Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
Pushing Charlie 158	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:49:00 - [3] - Quote Well, they are Heavies. Knight Soiaire I am the Wizard from the moon.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1503	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:51:00 - [4] - Quote Nanohives are your friend Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3801	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:51:00 - [5] - Quote I would just like to point out that 2854 = 1512, and 1380 = 1040, for a total of 1512+1040 = 2552. Most heavies don't have more than 1500-1700 EHP, even the bricked Amarr vs CR. I think your problems are somewhat deeper than the heavy EHP. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11199	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:55:00 - [6] - Quote I believe that if you stop firing you aren't doing your job as a Commando. I always run out of ammo. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Clone D 472	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:56:00 - [7] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I would just like to point out that 2854 = 1512, and 1380 = 1040, for a total of 1512+1040 = 2552. Most heavies don't have more than 1500-1700 EHP, even the bricked Amarr vs CR. I think your problems are somewhat deeper than the heavy EHP. That is all optimum range. You do know that in battle, especially against a tacky glue death ray that sticks you to the floor as soon as you get hit, you have to take some shots out of range. I generally try to start off with a few ADS SCP head shots, but you know that heavies can turn around faster than I can take them out, which requires maneuvering in and out of optimum range for either weapon. I'd like to stack about 4 complex damage mods, but I don't have the slots. It really sucks when supply depots get blown away. .
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 84	Posted - 2014.06.26 01:58:00 - [8] - Quote I run out of ammo too, but it isn't because the heavies have soaked them up. It's because I haven't died yet. GOML
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1503	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:01:00 - [9] - Quote Clone D wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I would just like to point out that 2854 = 1512, and 1380 = 1040, for a total of 1512+1040 = 2552. Most heavies don't have more than 1500-1700 EHP, even the bricked Amarr vs CR. I think your problems are somewhat deeper than the heavy EHP. That is all optimum range. You do know that in battle, especially against a tacky glue death ray that sticks you to the floor as soon as you get hit, you have to take some shots out of range. I generally try to start off with a few ADS SCP head shots, but you know that heavies can turn around faster than I can take them out, which requires maneuvering in and out of optimum range for either weapon. I'd like to stack about 4 complex damage mods, but I don't have the slots. It really sucks when supply depots get blown away. They have removed the slowdown affect in weapons your argument is invalid Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3801	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:01:00 - [10] - Quote Clone D wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I would just like to point out that 2854 = 1512, and 1380 = 1040, for a total of 1512+1040 = 2552. Most heavies don't have more than 1500-1700 EHP, even the bricked Amarr vs CR. I think your problems are somewhat deeper than the heavy EHP. That is all optimum range. You do know that in battle, especially against a tacky glue death ray that sticks you to the floor as soon as you get hit, you have to take some shots out of range. I generally try to start off with a few ADS SCP head shots, but you know that heavies can turn around faster than I can take them out, which requires maneuvering in and out of optimum range for either weapon. I'd like to stack about 4 complex damage mods, but I don't have the slots. It really sucks when supply depots get blown away. Your optimal for the pistol is the same as the HMG's, and assuming you're using your weapon combination optimally you'll be dealing over 1200 damage with it across the magazine. A headshot will strip at least a sixth of a heavy's EHP. A combat rifle has an optimal range of like 60m; you should be dealing plenty enough damage to kill a heavy with it. In the end I don't really feel like this is a problem. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6179	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:01:00 - [11] - Quote There are a lot more Logis now, but they aren't really logis for the team. They are mostly drones that follow around heavies and perma rep them. (It's BS that the repair tool doesn't have a cooldown) This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
Clone D 473	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:01:00 - [12] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: I run out of ammo too, but it isn't because the heavies have soaked them up. It's because I haven't died yet. GOML Yes, I run out of ammo all the time, but even faster now that the fields are saturated with fat boys. What's the most effective weapon against heavies. It's probably time for me to spec into a new weapon. Mass Driver? .
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 85	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:04:00 - [13] - Quote Clone D wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: I run out of ammo too, but it isn't because the heavies have soaked them up. It's because I haven't died yet. GOML Yes, I run out of ammo all the time, but even faster now that the fields are saturated with fat boys. What's the most effective weapon against heavies. It's probably time for me to spec into a new weapon. Mass Driver? The most effective weapon against a heavy is two mercenaries pelting a heavy with projectiles. We throw grenades just for the party too. Coordinated attacks. Coordinated ability. Coordinated win GOML
Clone D 473	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:04:00 - [14] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: In the end I don't really feel like this is a problem. Don't forget to calculate for repping during the engagement. I have literally watched their armor/shields grow back during a firefight. .
Clone D 473	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:11:00 - [15] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: Clone D wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: I run out of ammo too, but it isn't because the heavies have soaked them up. It's because I haven't died yet. GOML Yes, I run out of ammo all the time, but even faster now that the fields are saturated with fat boys. What's the most effective weapon against heavies. It's probably time for me to spec into a new weapon. Mass Driver? The most effective weapon against a heavy is two mercenaries pelting a heavy with projectiles. We throw grenades just for the party too. Coordinated attacks. Coordinated ability. Coordinated win GOML I don't intend to be rude, but please don't write GOML if you can't solo a heavy. Thanks for the tip, but I am a total loser and run lone wolf. I agree, swarming heavies is the best plan, but in the heat of battle I often end up mono e mono. .
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5413	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:18:00 - [16] - Quote Definite problem, as it's not only heavy eHP: it's the fact that sentinels can't carry nanohives, so they steal from everyone else's. I actually ran out of ammo and nanohives with my plasma cannon today due to heavy mooches. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 114	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:28:00 - [17] - Quote You are your own problem. Service with a smile
Clone D 473	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:31:00 - [18] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: You are your own problem. Please tell me more so that I can understand your perception. .
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 59	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:35:00 - [19] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: There are a lot more Logis now, but they aren't really logis for the team. They are mostly drones that follow around heavies and perma rep them. (It's BS that the repair tool doesn't have a cooldown) Just keep a cooldown on repair WP bonuses, if you put an overheat or 'cooldown' effect on repair tools, that'll be just... Words cant describe how it'll affect repair Logis...
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 86	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:40:00 - [20] - Quote Clone D wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: Clone D wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: I run out of ammo too, but it isn't because the heavies have soaked them up. It's because I haven't died yet. GOML Yes, I run out of ammo all the time, but even faster now that the fields are saturated with fat boys. What's the most effective weapon against heavies. It's probably time for me to spec into a new weapon. Mass Driver? The most effective weapon against a heavy is two mercenaries pelting a heavy with projectiles. We throw grenades just for the party too. Coordinated attacks. Coordinated ability. Coordinated win GOML I don't intend to be rude, but please don't write GOML if you can't solo a heavy. Thanks for the tip, but I am a total loser and run lone wolf. I agree, swarming heavies is the best plan, but in the heat of battle I often end up mono e mono. No one should be able to solo a heavy because its a heavy. A point defender. It is built to withstand much damage than your medium to light counterparts. So GOML is appropiate. Basically, I understand that a heavy is powerful and respect it. And that shows in how I engage a heavy. Also, disengaging from a 1 on 1 is something that falls on deaf ears with most players. That's how you stay alive in Dust, knowing when to fight and when to run like hell.

Clone D 473	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:45:00 - [21] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: No one should be able to solo a heavy because its a heavy. A point defender. It is built to withstand much damage than your medium to light counterparts. So GOML is appropiate. Basically, I understand that a heavy is powerful and respect it. And that shows in how I engage a heavy. Also, disengaging from a 1 on 1 is something that falls on deaf ears with most players. That's how you stay alive in Dust, knowing when to fight and when to run like hell. I agree that heavies are bad mofos, and I'm not saying that they are OP or anything. I also agree with carefully selecting targets to engage. I'm simply stating that I run alone, and I'm looking for the most ammo-effective way to dispense of heavies for a lone wolf, since the battlefields are teeming with them. Of course, my favorite tactic is simply to squash them with a drop ship when I get the chance to do so, but that isn't always the most expedient method. .
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 86	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:55:00 - [22] - Quote Clone D wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: No one should be able to solo a heavy because its a heavy. A point defender. It is built to withstand much damage than your medium to light counterparts. So GOML is appropiate. Basically, I understand that a heavy is powerful and respect it. And that shows in how I engage a heavy. Also, disengaging from a 1 on 1 is something that falls on deaf ears with most players. That's how you stay alive in Dust, knowing when to fight and when to run like hell. I agree that heavies are bad mofos, and I'm not saying that they are OP or anything. I also agree with carefully selecting targets to engage. I'm simply stating that I run alone, and I'm looking for the most ammo-effective way to dispense of heavies for a lone wolf, since the battlefields are teeming with them. Of course, my favorite tactic is simply to squash them with a drop ship when I get the chance to do so, but that isn't always the most expedient method. Yet the tactic can be still used. Positioning is key. If I shoot at a heavy and grab his attention, meaning he gives chase, then I position myself outside of his optimal range. I aim for his head to make sure the shots hurt. I use high/low advantages, hills, support structures and blues to my advantage. I use a grenade to soften up his defenses. Or I lead him to a group of other players where we stand to fire upon him. There are so many ways. You have to creatively defeat your opponent. Slow and steady is better than speed kills. Incrementally destroy your opponent.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1503	Posted - 2014.06.26 02:57:00 - [23] - Quote Clone D wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: No one should be able to solo a heavy because its a heavy. A point defender. It is built to withstand much damage than your medium to light counterparts. So GOML is appropiate. Basically, I understand that a heavy is powerful and respect it. And that shows in how I engage a heavy. Also, disengaging from a 1 on 1 is something that falls on deaf ears with most players. That's how you stay alive in Dust, knowing when to fight and when to run like hell. I agree that heavies are bad mofos, and I'm not saying that they are OP or anything. I also agree with carefully selecting targets to engage. I'm simply stating that I run alone, and I'm looking for the most ammo-effective way to dispense of heavies for a lone wolf, since the battlefields are teeming with them. Of course, my favorite tactic is simply to squash them with a drop ship when I get the chance to do so, but that isn't always the most expedient method. Ive found the shoot then lure into a RE trap works well Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Louis Domi PRadox One Proficiency V. 387	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:30:00 - [24] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: There are a lot more Logis now, but they aren't really logis for the team. They are mostly drones that follow around heavies and perma rep them. (It's BS that the repair tool doesn't have a cooldown) This one game I was in I saw a minmatar logi was repping a heavy... What made this worse was the amount of triage nano that were on the ground... I swear this heavy was getting shot by everyone on my team, His armor did not even budge...
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6180	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:33:00 - [25] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: There are a lot more Logis now, but they aren't really logis for the team. They are mostly drones that follow around heavies and perma rep them. (It's BS that the repair tool doesn't have a cooldown) This one game I was in I saw a minmatar logi was repping a heavy... What made this worse was the amount of triage nano that were on the ground... I swear this heavy was getting shot by everyone on my team, His armor did not even budge... That's my problem, You could go an entire matching with the repair tool on on not a single thing would happen. I don't want a hard nerf obviously but that's just ridiculous that it doesn't have an amount of nanites that can be emmited before it had to recharge (reload). and of course it's unlimited, just needs to recharge after sustained use. This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
Taylor Badasz 178	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:34:00 - [26] - Quote No more logi nerfs,please. I understand the first nerf for the rep tool but please,no more. Im a support logi and the nerfs have messed me up. Lazer focused...
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 64	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:34:00 - [27] - Quote cough ammo capacity skill cough
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 128	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:35:00 - [28] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: There are a lot more Logis now, but they aren't really logis for the team. They are mostly drones that follow around heavies and perma rep them. (It's BS that the repair tool doesn't have a cooldown) This one game I was in I saw a minmatar logi was repping a heavy... What made this worse was the amount of triage nano that were on the ground... I swear this heavy was getting shot by everyone on my team, His armor did not even budge... And none of you fluxed the ground or rained std grenades until the hives popped? One flux grenade is all it takes... And always shoot the Doc first.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 200	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:45:00 - [29] - Quote Clone D wrote: Are you guys running out of ammo a lot because there is such a large population of heavies in the game now? I am unloading a full CR clip and 13 SCP rounds into these heavies and it still doesn't take them down. I am astounded at the amount of ammo required to drop these guys. **** EDIT ***** What is the most effective weapon to take down a heavy solo? my hives are happy. oh and most effective weapon... another heavy, failing that a remote.
SCATTORSHOT RINNEGATE A.P.E.X BRUTE FORCE 79	Posted - 2014.06.26 05:27:00 - [30] - Quote Have you even tried to run a 1v1 heavy? try it if the guy don't stop Waiting The Sagaris From Ages. CCP: SoonTM



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