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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:

Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

I played about three games with the AR variants. I realize that's not much to go on, but here's my thoughts anyway:

- TAR. Worst of the bunch. I only tried it at around 60m, presumably its intended range. The RoF is so low that the enemy is likely to get cover before you finish them. If they have a RR or even LR they'll melt you in seconds.

- BuAR. The RoF is 833 at advanced and 950ish at proto (weirdly it varies with level), and it takes noticeably longer for all three bullets to be applied than the CR (1200 RoF). It also feels like there is a longer interval between bursts as well, as Arkena suggests. The scope and (I think) slightly longer range than standard/breach AR are nice, but only add to the overall impression of a slow-motion CR.

- BrAR. More interesting because it's not just a worse version of a different race's weapon. RR is nearest equivalent but the lack of charge time means the BrAR is more responsive. Even so, you're chipping away at enemy HP at a feeble rate due to that puny RoF. It handles like a mid-range weapon, but it's actually ineffective beyond short ranges. Like the BuAR it's fine for slaying scrubs but you'll die the moment you encounter a decent player with a CR.

The only way to buff the AR is to increase rof

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Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9115	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:02:00 - [1] - Quote Are they actually worth running now? What is the TTK in comparison to the Combat Rifle? DPS? On average, how many bursts does it take to kill a Medium Frame? HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Need HeLP in PC? Contact Me In-Game :D -HAND
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14006	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:09:00 - [2] - Quote No. Longer. The burst delay is very noticeable, unlike with the CR. I'm not sure what the exact DPS is but that's a paper statistic anyway. Depends what medium frame. It probably approaches 10 on average though. Stick with the CR. It's just better. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
negative49er Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 572	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:17:00 - [3] - Quote They're still terrible but I got to say the tactical became my favorite weapon again Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 164	Posted - 2014.06.04 15:43:00 - [4] - Quote negative49er wrote: They're still terrible but I got to say the tactical became my favorite weapon again I threw the TAR on a Commando suit a few days ago. Forgot how much I liked that gun a year ago.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1304	Posted - 2014.06.04 17:43:00 - [5] - Quote I played about three games with the AR variants. I realize that's not much to go on, but here's my thoughts anyway: - TAR. Worst of the bunch. I only tried it at around 60m, presumably its intended range. The RoF is so low that the enemy is likely to get cover before you finish them. If they have a RR or even LR they'll melt you in seconds. - BuAR. The RoF is 833 at advanced and 950ish at proto (weirdly it varies with level), and it takes noticeably longer for all three bullets to be applied than the CR (1200 RoF). It also feels like there is a longer interval between bursts as well, as Arkena suggests. The scope and (I think) slightly longer range than standard/breach AR are nice, but only add to the overall impression of a slow-motion CR. - BrAR. More interesting because it's not just a worse version of a different race's weapon. RR is nearest equivalent but the lack of charge time means the BrAR is more responsive. Even so, you're chipping away at enemy HP at a feeble rate due to that puny RoF. It handles like a mid-range weapon, but it's actually ineffective beyond short ranges. Like the BuAR it's fine for slaying scrubs but you'll die the moment you encounter a decent player with a CR.
PLAYSTTION Universal Allies Inc. 161	Posted - 2014.06.04 19:53:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: Are they actually worth running now? What is the TTK in comparison to the Combat Rifle? DPS? On average, how many bursts does it take to kill a Medium Frame? It takes 1/2 to 3/4 of a clip if they are in the open long enough to get enough shots past that long burst interval 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency V. 149	Posted - 2014.06.04 20:47:00 - [7] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I played about three games with the AR variants. I realize that's not much to go on, but here's my thoughts anyway: - TAR. Worst of the bunch. I only tried it at around 60m, presumably its intended range. The RoF is so low that the enemy is likely to get cover before you finish them. If they have a RR or even LR they'll melt you in seconds. - BuAR. The RoF is 833 at advanced and 950ish at proto (weirdly it varies with level), and it takes noticeably longer for all three bullets to be applied than the CR (1200 RoF). It also feels like there is a longer interval between bursts as well, as Arkena suggests. The scope and (I think) slightly longer range than standard/breach AR are nice, but only add to the overall impression of a slow-motion CR. - BrAR. More interesting because it's not just a worse version of a different race's weapon. RR is nearest equivalent but the lack of charge time means the BrAR is more responsive. Even so, you're chipping away at enemy HP at a feeble rate due to that puny RoF. It handles like a mid-range weapon, but it's actually ineffective beyond short ranges. Like the BuAR it's fine for slaying scrubs but you'll die the moment you encounter a decent player with a CR. The only way to buff the AR is to increase rof
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10137	Posted - 2014.06.04 21:11:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim, why did you leave the match I was in :( I wanted to fight against you, but then you left. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10457	Posted - 2014.06.04 21:12:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Atiim, why did you leave the match I was in :( I wanted to fight against you, but then you left. He fears the divine retribution of the Cat God of Catkind and his Sons. They are his SpacemaCats and they know no Fear. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9122	Posted - 2014.06.04 21:19:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Atiim, why did you leave the match I was in :( I wanted to fight against you, but then you left. What? HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Need HeLP in PC? Contact Me In-Game :D -HAND

Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1307	Posted - 2014.06.05 06:35:00 - [11] - Quote IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I played about three games with the AR variants. I realize that's not much to go on, but here's my thoughts anyway: - TAR. Worst of the bunch. I only tried it at around 60m, presumably its intended range. The RoF is so low that the enemy is likely to get cover before you finish them. If they have a RR or even LR they'll melt you in seconds. - BuAR. The RoF is 833 at advanced and 950ish at proto (weirdly it varies with level), and it takes noticeably longer for all three bullets to be applied than the CR (1200 RoF). It also feels like there is a longer interval between bursts as well, as Arkena suggests. The scope and (I think) slightly longer range than standard/breach AR are nice, but only add to the overall impression of a slow-motion CR. - BrAR. More interesting because it's not just a worse version of a different race's weapon. RR is nearest equivalent but the lack of charge time means the BrAR is more responsive. Even so, you're chipping away at enemy HP at a feeble rate due to that puny RoF. It handles like a mid-range weapon, but it's actually ineffective beyond short ranges. Like the BuAR it's fine for slaying scrubs but you'll die the moment you encounter a decent player with a CR. The only way to buff the AR is to increase rof Maybe for breach and standard AR but wouldnt advise this for TAR or BuAR as it will leave them open to turbo controller abuse.


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