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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
186
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:17:00 -
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So sick of people crying over other people wearing proto gear, it's digusting how big of scrubs you are.
When I first started playing this game you only had proto if you had the skills. There was no loyalty points, it was either you had the gear or you didn't. This made proto squads so much more vicious.
Now more than ever the playing field has been leveled. You can literally play this game for just a few weeks and have a very strong character. There's no excuses now, as long as you have advanced gear you can run the proto variant.
If you want to run cheap gear then you have no right to complain about what others run. I don't when I die in a BPO fit to a proto suit. I either load in another and try again or I step my game up and bring in a proto and even things out. It's that simple.
Now if you want to complain about how much money was made in PC by locking districts and how the economy is now broken because big corps with gobs of cash have no consequences when running proto gear. Then yeah, now I'm with ya :)
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
305
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:21:00 -
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Yeah, a guy with 5 million SP should kick the ass of a guy running proto with his proto squad behind him running scans non-stop with a dropship overhead and a tank controlling the open ground. You are such an inspiration.
Because, that's why.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3098
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:24:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Yeah, a guy with 5 million SP should kick the ass of a guy running proto with his proto squad behind him running scans non-stop with a dropship overhead and a tank controlling the open ground. You are such an inspiration.
Join a corp, find people who are willing to play as a squad. Be amazed as you begin to play the game as it was meant to be played.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Level 3 Forum Warrior
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darkiller240
WarRavens League of Infamy
585
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:24:00 -
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well i guess your a proto-stomper
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
187
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:24:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Yeah, a guy with 5 million SP should kick the ass of a guy running proto with his proto squad behind him running scans non-stop with a dropship overhead and a tank controlling the open ground. You are such an inspiration.
If you spend your points wisely then you can easily compete. Squad up bud, this isn't COD.
I play primarily solo, so what I do is join a squad in game. You'd be surprise how many people run around squadless.... |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2391
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:25:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:So sick of people crying over other people wearing proto gear, it's digusting how big of scrubs you are.
When I first started playing this game you only had proto if you had the skills. There was no loyalty points, it was either you had the gear or you didn't. This made proto squads so much more vicious.
Now more than ever the playing field has been leveled. You can literally play this game for just a few weeks and have a very strong character. There's no excuses now, as long as you have advanced gear you can run the proto variant.
If you want to run cheap gear then you have no right to complain about what others run. I don't when I die in a BPO fit to a proto suit. I either load in another and try again or I step my game up and bring in a proto and even things out. It's that simple.
Now if you want to complain about how much money was made in PC by locking districts and how the economy is now broken because big corps with gobs of cash have no consequences when running proto gear. Then yeah, now I'm with ya :)
Well, that is the whole point. Proto wasn't as big a deal in the past because it wasn't financially sound to do it 24/7. If they wanted to run the risk of proto suits, go for it. But now that a good chunk of people are so rich they don't even have a single non-proto suit in their fitting list, it's just crazy.
(Also, it's terrible for new player retention, but thats a philosophical issue. Some people take the HTFU/ it's new eden scrub philosophy too far. I love the cutthroat mentality but not to the point that it hurts the viability of the game)
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
1460
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:31:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:So sick of people crying over other people wearing proto gear, it's digusting how big of scrubs you are.
When I first started playing this game you only had proto if you had the skills. There was no loyalty points, it was either you had the gear or you didn't. This made proto squads so much more vicious.
Now more than ever the playing field has been leveled. You can literally play this game for just a few weeks and have a very strong character. There's no excuses now, as long as you have advanced gear you can run the proto variant.
If you want to run cheap gear then you have no right to complain about what others run. I don't when I die in a BPO fit to a proto suit. I either load in another and try again or I step my game up and bring in a proto and even things out. It's that simple.
Now if you want to complain about how much money was made in PC by locking districts and how the economy is now broken because big corps with gobs of cash have no consequences when running proto gear. Then yeah, now I'm with ya :)
A couple issues here. If you started when I did, Proto was immensely powerful. Better weapons by a league, more HP, slots out the ass, I can go on.
Now, if I make a new toon, I can spend IRL money to try and get a temporary parity with the not-nearly-as-powerful Proto of today, I can put up with the hassle of FW to try and get the LP version while not going broke in FW.
I do agreee with the PC thing though, that's bullshit.
Also, you don't feel sad about losing a BPO suit? Wow, how unheard of that you lose nothing and feel nothing for it :p
Shields as Weapons
Zelda Dynasty Warriors is a real thing.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
187
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:31:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote: Well, that is the whole point. Proto wasn't as big a deal in the past because it wasn't financially sound to do it 24/7. If they wanted to run the risk of proto suits, go for it. But now that a good chunk of people are so rich they don't even have a single non-proto suit in their fitting list, it's just crazy.
(Also, it's terrible for new player retention, but thats a philosophical issue. Some people take the HTFU/ it's new eden scrub philosophy too far. I love the cutthroat mentality but not to the point that it hurts the viability of the game)
How long you been playing? Proto gear was a bigger problem back then because no new players had access to it. All the guys from beta literally ran around stomping everyone.
ISK wasn't an issue back then because payouts were way higher. Also there wasn't a squad finder, so finding a good squad to run with was way tougher.
The game has gotten a lot easier for new players, people need to quit with the complaining. |
Blind Cat
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:33:00 -
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my problem isn't whith proto stomping it's the mcc get destroyed befor the clone count is reached |
darkiller240
WarRavens League of Infamy
585
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:36:00 -
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Blind Cat wrote:my problem isn't whith proto stomping it's the mcc get destroyed befor the clone count is reached yep i second that
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm
Expert Intervention Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:37:00 -
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It's pointless trying to talk sense into people about Proto gear.
This was just a waste of your time tbh.
45 player match
I'm obviously not who you think I am
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2392
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:37:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:John Demonsbane wrote: Well, that is the whole point. Proto wasn't as big a deal in the past because it wasn't financially sound to do it 24/7. If they wanted to run the risk of proto suits, go for it. But now that a good chunk of people are so rich they don't even have a single non-proto suit in their fitting list, it's just crazy.
(Also, it's terrible for new player retention, but thats a philosophical issue. Some people take the HTFU/ it's new eden scrub philosophy too far. I love the cutthroat mentality but not to the point that it hurts the viability of the game)
How long you been playing? Proto gear was a bigger problem back then because no new players had access to it. All the guys from beta literally ran around stomping everyone. ISK wasn't an issue back then because payouts were way higher. Also there wasn't a squad finder, so finding a good squad to run with was way tougher. The game has gotten a lot easier for new players, people need to quit with the complaining.
Open beta. I think maybe I just passed 1 year? Not sure b/c I biomassed my first couple of toons.
I don't recall encountering entire squads of proto players every single match like I do now. It was more OP because you just couldn't touch it in the mlt gear I was running at the time, but far less common.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Jane Madson
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
411
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:51:00 -
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In closed beta, we worked our butts off to get the proto gear. And when we did, we used it. I still run proto some of the time, it all depends on the match. I start in basic gear and if the match requires me to run proto to win, then proto it is. I care less about isk or kdr, isk can be earned easy enough. Its all about the win and warpoints
"Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us" join OUKH, fight for the State
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
187
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:51:00 -
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I started playing shortly after the game was released, I came around when it was TAC AR 514. I couldn't stay alive for more than a few seconds without being two shotted by a TAC AR. I encountered plenty of full proto squads and I remember being pissed because I didn't have proto and there was literally no answer for them.
Now, if you have advanced gear and get stomped you can go get proto real quick in faction warfare. It's a lot easier, I made an alt and skilled into everything I needed to be relevant on the battlefield in less than a month. I ran just a few ambushs for money, the rest faction warfare and after a few weeks I had over a 150 proto suits. I had an adv weapon, proto damage mods, adv scanner and adv hives on a proto suit and I was stomping people.
Now I know what I'm doing, where the new player makes mistakes. That's makes a difference, but yeah it's possible to be a bad ass in a very short amount of time where before it would take two months of grinding without any boosters just to get a proto suit. |
Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
306
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Posted - 2014.03.15 17:04:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Yeah, a guy with 5 million SP should kick the ass of a guy running proto with his proto squad behind him running scans non-stop with a dropship overhead and a tank controlling the open ground. You are such an inspiration. Join a corp, find people who are willing to play as a squad. Be amazed as you begin to play the game as it was meant to be played.
It's not all about me, it's about every newer player in the game and a squad of new players fares no better than a solo new player. I have been in hundreds of matches where squadding did absolutely no good for newer players, it is not a solution.
Because, that's why.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
814
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Posted - 2014.03.15 17:06:00 -
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When I started playing proto suits were few and the combat was fair. Right now, every pusssy can run a proto.
Please take away Glogi bonuss towards scanners.
It means only gallente scouts are viable in a match with wallhack users
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1363
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Posted - 2014.03.15 17:17:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Yeah, a guy with 5 million SP should kick the ass of a guy running proto with his proto squad behind him running scans non-stop with a dropship overhead and a tank controlling the open ground. You are such an inspiration.
A guy with 55 Mil SP couldn't out do that.
PRO Gear > ADV Gear > STD Gear
but when it comes down to it Teamwork > PRO Gear
Proto Gear isn't the issue, it's teamwork and you can't simply say "screw teamwork."
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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safura trotsky
Kill Mode Activated Galactic Skyfleet Empire
41
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Posted - 2014.03.15 18:01:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:well i guess your a proto-stomper you're* git guud scrub
Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
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