Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
70
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 13:51:00 -
[1] - Quote
Maybe I am still a noob, maybe its cause I am not in a heavy with a rail rifle like 90% of the people I have been coming up against in PUB matches. I watch the cool youtube videos of cyrius li moody and totally want to be a scouty lone wolf. I have put 90% of my 5.8 mil SP into scout suits, dropsuit upgrades, shotguns and pistols. And canGÇÖt do jack, I was following a heavy for 20 feet depressed about how I knew once I started firing I was going to be dead. Fired first round, took his shields out, he turns around faster than I can, fired second, half his armor is gone, I start strafing and jumping, before I get to fire the third, his (insert whatever weapon you want here, but usually a RR) kills me. I have basic shields and reactive plates, 99 shields and 168 armor. Lately its been poor detection and rubber-banding that have been helping speed me on to the clone tank. Other times, like 50% of the matches I played last night, (I guess everyone is trying to cap out really fast?) It was proto stomp after proto stomp, one murder taxi squad was flipping using a proto scanner. Anyho, who wants my isk, I think I am done.
|
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Top Men.
1055
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 13:54:00 -
[2] - Quote
No. Your application to quit Dust has been rejected. Now onto the battlefield, soldier!
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
|
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
393
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 13:58:00 -
[3] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:Maybe I am still a noob, maybe its cause I am not in a heavy with a rail rifle like 90% of the people I have been coming up against in PUB matches. I watch the cool youtube videos of cyrius li moody and totally want to be a scouty lone wolf. I have put 90% of my 5.8 mil SP into scout suits, dropsuit upgrades, shotguns and pistols. And canGÇÖt do jack, I was following a heavy for 20 feet depressed about how I knew once I started firing I was going to be dead. Fired first round, took his shields out, he turns around faster than I can, fired second, half his armor is gone, I start strafing and jumping, before I get to fire the third, his (insert whatever weapon you want here, but usually a RR) kills me. I have basic shields and reactive plates, 99 shields and 168 armor. Lately its been poor detection and rubber-banding that have been helping speed me on to the clone tank. Other times, like 50% of the matches I played last night, (I guess everyone is trying to cap out really fast?) It was proto stomp after proto stomp, one murder taxi squad was flipping using a proto scanner. Anyho, who wants my isk, I think I am done.
Moody dies alot to he just doesnt show those vids like any good you tuber... Seriously ask mustard or nausea they will tell you the life of the scout it to die alot, unless your roner, with the proto and six kin 24 7, though I did smash his face in with my six kin 2 days ago.... Hi, swag... lmao jkjk, man you will get better with it, its just time. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
1987
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 14:02:00 -
[4] - Quote
learn to use RE's or get amazing with a sub machine gun.
all that frustration goes away when you watch that heavy corpse rag doll off the ceiling. |
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
71
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 14:06:00 -
[5] - Quote
That is literally how I have to kill heavies if I can get the sneak on them, I just wished the shotgun (which seemed more powerful as the MLT verison before I started putting points into it) could actually kill something when I am 2 meters away instead of getting me killed. I should switch to knives cause I am close enough and they can 2 hit heavies, but I specced the wrong suit so I am screwed now. |
ALT2 acc
158
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 14:10:00 -
[6] - Quote
calisk galern wrote:learn to use RE's or get amazing with a sub machine gun.
all that frustration goes away when you watch that heavy corpse rag doll off the ceiling. A ACR or CR Is better than a smg, I used the assault smg.
Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
|
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1689
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 14:17:00 -
[7] - Quote
I've had some great cat-and-mouse fights with heavies lately. When i have my wits about and remember that it would be....unwise.....to try and take them down with my Exile, i just pillar'n'post/runawaylikealittegirl with the heavy until a teammate comes along or i'm in a good position to try and get him when he reloads.
I've had fights go for more than a minute and they're typically decided by whose teammates show up first ;)
This is one of the situations where the minny assault/passive scan skills shine, especially if you haven't given away your speed advantage to plates.
I support SP rollover.
|
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1041
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 14:31:00 -
[8] - Quote
ALT2 acc wrote:calisk galern wrote:learn to use RE's or get amazing with a sub machine gun.
all that frustration goes away when you watch that heavy corpse rag doll off the ceiling. A ACR or CR Is better than a smg, I used the assault smg. Agreed, a couple of my scouts are running assault CR with great success.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
|
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
1993
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 14:33:00 -
[9] - Quote
CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:calisk galern wrote:learn to use RE's or get amazing with a sub machine gun.
all that frustration goes away when you watch that heavy corpse rag doll off the ceiling. A ACR or CR Is better than a smg, I used the assault smg. Agreed, a couple of my scouts are running assault CR with great success.
true the assault cr is better then the smg, but for surprise attacks double tap the shotgun and switch to smg, would finish off even proto heavies. |
Onesimus Tarsus
1242
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 15:22:00 -
[10] - Quote
Seriously, give up. With the RR and heavies able to move at 97.994 Scout top speed and aim assist and scanners and logis always doing the job better and jeep heavies and tankorama and on and on, scouts are merely ways to give meds and hevs things to shoot, and snipers their only chance at one-shotting someone who isn't AFK.
Just. Give. Up.
I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here.
cc2.27.13
|
|
Asher Night
Dark Tengu
485
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 15:28:00 -
[11] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:That is literally how I have to kill heavies if I can get the sneak on them, I just wished the shotgun (which seemed more powerful as the MLT verison before I started putting points into it) could actually kill something when I am 2 meters away instead of getting me killed. I should switch to knives cause I am close enough and they can 2 hit heavies, but I specced the wrong suit so I am screwed now.
What's your KDR? |
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
74
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 15:34:00 -
[12] - Quote
0.8
I have games where its been as high as 8.0, I can move around, set traps and generally play the scout well, its just everyone has been playing heavies and the shotgun doesn't cut it, I suppose I should switch my pistol to the smg, but I like the slightly further range of the pistol. and its a shield destroyer.
I gotta figure something else out though, been having some straight up sh!tty games. Total proto squad stomping in PUBs are a big help my anger though. |
Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
582
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 15:37:00 -
[13] - Quote
Join the D.A.R.K channel and hmu in game. I will show you some of my methods. I would recommend holding on till 1.8 when the scout will finally get some love.
Also, remember heavies are really hard to kill with a SG these days so you can just avoid them for now till you hone your skills on medium frames.
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
|
Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1873
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 15:41:00 -
[14] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:Maybe I am still a noob, maybe its cause I am not in a heavy with a rail rifle like 90% of the people I have been coming up against in PUB matches. I watch the cool youtube videos of cyrius li moody and totally want to be a scouty lone wolf. I have put 90% of my 5.8 mil SP into scout suits, dropsuit upgrades, shotguns and pistols. And canGÇÖt do jack, I was following a heavy for 20 feet depressed about how I knew once I started firing I was going to be dead. Fired first round, took his shields out, he turns around faster than I can, fired second, half his armor is gone, I start strafing and jumping, before I get to fire the third, his (insert whatever weapon you want here, but usually a RR) kills me. I have basic shields and reactive plates, 99 shields and 168 armor. Lately its been poor detection and rubber-banding that have been helping speed me on to the clone tank. Other times, like 50% of the matches I played last night, (I guess everyone is trying to cap out really fast?) It was proto stomp after proto stomp, one murder taxi squad was flipping using a proto scanner. Anyho, who wants my isk, I think I am done.
With the heavies shotgun proficiency comes into play bigtime IMO, I am prof 4 on my shotgun and most the time I can take them down faster than they can get to me. Main deal is to get their turning direction right, and bounce the other way, having a basic shield plate does you nothing..absolutely nothing. Speak to V abot fitting your suit and also good ways to approach the fatties. V is an immense scout and has a lot of good advice.
Side note: RE the fat bastaards
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
|
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
75
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 16:00:00 -
[15] - Quote
V doesn't want to share his secrets, he told me that he can't give them away, lol, like spilt second decisions and gun game can be overcome with gear. Anyways, he is an alright guy, I have run with him plenty of times, but I am really trying to get a good solo game going. It is easier to run in a group yes, but I want to good gud as a lone wolf. Prof V shotgun is my next target I guess, maybe that 15% faster rof will make the difference. |
Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1874
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 16:05:00 -
[16] - Quote
Lone wolfing for me works best with a stealth/speed suit. Utilizing passive scans(precision enhancements, range amplification) then kitkats and profile dampening. The idea is be being to see them before they ever see you. I can run a STD suit with 1 precision enchancer, 1 kit kat and 1 profile dampner (SG, scrambler pistol and RE's) just as good as I can run the proto version now.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
|
Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
319
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 16:08:00 -
[17] - Quote
After this week the number of heavies should go back down...it's just Operation Mauler.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
|
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1336
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 16:10:00 -
[18] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:Maybe I am still a noob, maybe its cause I am not in a heavy with a rail rifle like 90% of the people I have been coming up against in PUB matches. I watch the cool youtube videos of cyrius li moody and totally want to be a scouty lone wolf. I have put 90% of my 5.8 mil SP into scout suits, dropsuit upgrades, shotguns and pistols. And canGÇÖt do jack, I was following a heavy for 20 feet depressed about how I knew once I started firing I was going to be dead. Fired first round, took his shields out, he turns around faster than I can, fired second, half his armor is gone, I start strafing and jumping, before I get to fire the third, his (insert whatever weapon you want here, but usually a RR) kills me. I have basic shields and reactive plates, 99 shields and 168 armor. Lately its been poor detection and rubber-banding that have been helping speed me on to the clone tank. Other times, like 50% of the matches I played last night, (I guess everyone is trying to cap out really fast?) It was proto stomp after proto stomp, one murder taxi squad was flipping using a proto scanner. Anyho, who wants my isk, I think I am done.
try a gallente scout with flux. Seriously you are gonna cut most suits inhalf. Big whoop, you lost 87 shields.
Who wants some?
|
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
370
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 16:15:00 -
[19] - Quote
I hope you don't quit. Stick it out killer. Would be a bummer to lose another player.
P.s. +4
"Not the livestock George".
|
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
81
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 17:19:00 -
[20] - Quote
Thanks all for the words of encouragement, there is so much QQ on the forums, I figured I would be in for some sh!tty replies. The things I see Moody, George666, Jolly Roger and V do are crazy. I forget that 3 months of getting instakilled is not long enough to get gud, I need another 8 months.
I literally cry for new players. I hope CCP is serious when they state that they want to make it easier to skill into things earlier and cost less to use proto. The gap between advanced and proto is a little extreme. Why no 22, to 44, to 66. Cause the 22, 33, 66 of shield extenders is just one example of a pay to win game. I can only afford to get to level 3 on shields cause then is gets crazy expensive SP so I should use AUR. ThatGÇÖs not cool, otherwise I have to do double the amount of damage that a proto needs to do to kill me?
|
|
Asher Night
Dark Tengu
486
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 19:22:00 -
[21] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:Thanks all for the words of encouragement, there is so much QQ on the forums, I figured I would be in for some sh!tty replies. The things I see Moody, George666, Jolly Roger and V do are crazy. I forget that 3 months of getting instakilled is not long enough to get gud, I need another 8 months.
I literally cry for new players. I hope CCP is serious when they state that they want to make it easier to skill into things earlier and cost less to use proto. The gap between advanced and proto is a little extreme. Why no 22, to 44, to 66. Cause the 22, 33, 66 of shield extenders is just one example of a pay to win game. I can only afford to get to level 3 on shields cause then is gets crazy expensive SP so I should use AUR. ThatGÇÖs not cool, otherwise I have to do double the amount of damage that a proto needs to do to kill me?
Yeah, I never understoox the 33 to 66 shield thing. I assume it may have something to do with what classes are likely to fit them, but I don't understand it and I don't think it works. My Kdr has gone up a good bit in the past 3 weeks. 1.43 to 1.57. Being a scout has a much more dramatic learning curve than any other class. If you'd like, I'll play with you and we can share tips. Let me know. |
calvin b
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1578
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 19:59:00 -
[22] - Quote
Not to rain on your parade but in what world does a suit that has less than 400 beat a suit that can be upwards of 1600+. The truth is the way heavies used to be would make you rage quit more back then than now. I remember back in Beta when heavies where heavies I could drop 3-5 individuals before I succumbed to their fire. The truth is a heavy is not what it used to be and I am really looking forward to 1.8 because it may bring heavies back to the way they used to be and we can be the force we once where. Do not worry about FOTM chasers, being a heavy is more than a suit and weapon and I feel a lot will quit the suit once they realize this and cannot stomp like they can with militia tanks. Do not worry heavies will police our own ranks. At the moment the heavy RR is a problem but I believe it will solve itself over time, it will just take more true heavies to show them an HMG is better than a RR if used in the right hands. I have dropped more heavies with RR than HMG in this tournament and it is a promising sign. So keep your chin up and remember a SMG is more effective than most think.
A heavy before 1.8
|
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
81
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:17:00 -
[23] - Quote
There are only 2 things I need CCP to fix, and then I can live with a lot of the other problems that honestly will always be there.
1. Fix your lag. ItGÇÖs a FPS Multiplayer, lag kills (including hit detection) 2. Reduce backpedaling to half of running speed. No one can run backwards as fast as forwards IRL.
|
Lightning xVx
R 0 N 1 N
388
|
Posted - 2014.02.28 20:32:00 -
[24] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:0.8
I have games where its been as high as 8.0, I can move around, set traps and generally play the scout well, its just everyone has been playing heavies and the shotgun doesn't cut it, I suppose I should switch my pistol to the smg, but I like the slightly further range of the pistol. and its a shield destroyer.
I gotta figure something else out though, been having some straight up sh!tty games. Total proto squad stomping in PUBs are a big help my anger though.
Lets talk. |
J0LLY R0G3R
Dirt Nap Squad.
709
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 10:16:00 -
[25] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:Thanks all for the words of encouragement, there is so much QQ on the forums, I figured I would be in for some sh!tty replies. The things I see Moody, George666, Jolly Roger and V do are crazy. I forget that 3 months of getting instakilled is not long enough to get gud, I need another 8 months.
I literally cry for new players. I hope CCP is serious when they state that they want to make it easier to skill into things earlier and cost less to use proto. The gap between advanced and proto is a little extreme. Why no 22, to 44, to 66. Cause the 22, 33, 66 of shield extenders is just one example of a pay to win game. I can only afford to get to level 3 on shields cause then is gets crazy expensive SP so I should use AUR. ThatGÇÖs not cool, otherwise I have to do double the amount of damage that a proto needs to do to kill me?
Making sure you are still playing the game. Scouts don't quit, we just respawn. XD
++++Gimme Back my SG RoF++++
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
|
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
849
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 10:24:00 -
[26] - Quote
Stick with it dude! It's probably been said but flux is your friend as a scout. In that innitial encounter with the heavy, a cooked nade would have stripped the shield clean away then you could have finished him. Scouting is tough, I'm nearing 3 months on the role and I still get my squishy ass handed to me a fair bit but you just respawn and continue on with your objective.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
|
Scar Scrilla
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
220
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 11:14:00 -
[27] - Quote
Use shotgun and Assault machine gun. Most heavies will die to 2 or 3 shots to the melon with SG. If they still alive use the ASMG-dance to finish the job. Admitted though, my KDR ain't rising that steadily since I started scouting pre 1.8. Furthermore, scouting isn't recommended in any combat situation,at least for me a lesson hard learned :)
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
"Go and hack the letter(s)" - Join our public channel: UN1TE
|
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
759
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 11:24:00 -
[28] - Quote
J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Aszazel wrote:Thanks all for the words of encouragement, there is so much QQ on the forums, I figured I would be in for some sh!tty replies. The things I see Moody, George666, Jolly Roger and V do are crazy. I forget that 3 months of getting instakilled is not long enough to get gud, I need another 8 months.
I literally cry for new players. I hope CCP is serious when they state that they want to make it easier to skill into things earlier and cost less to use proto. The gap between advanced and proto is a little extreme. Why no 22, to 44, to 66. Cause the 22, 33, 66 of shield extenders is just one example of a pay to win game. I can only afford to get to level 3 on shields cause then is gets crazy expensive SP so I should use AUR. ThatGÇÖs not cool, otherwise I have to do double the amount of damage that a proto needs to do to kill me?
Making sure you are still playing the game. Scouts don't quit, we just respawn. XD He still plays. He shotgunned my face just a couple days ago, and with all the buffs scouts got (better bonuses, more slots, etc), I'm sure he's having a better time of it.
Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5.
Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14.
A manu dei et tet rimon.
|
LudiKure ninda
DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
79
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 12:18:00 -
[29] - Quote
I fell your pain bro,.. as Joly said we scouts dont give up,..we respawn.
The role of a scout is to anoy red dots as much as we can.
There is nothing more satisfyng then blow up heavy with RE, or shooting heavy in the back with shotgun,and taking him down before he can even turn around,and then tea bag him like a PRO
The best way I learned to play with scout suit is first to skill up into damping,precision and range skills to LV5,...helps ALOT
Always try to approach enemies behind they back, ALWAYS never go toe to toe with ENYONE.
Like Moody said fair figh is for puss++s
Solo player..
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED!
|
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2711
|
Posted - 2014.04.06 12:38:00 -
[30] - Quote
You can't just offer you isk like that It takes the meaning out of "can I haz isk", now like 1 comment said you can't just quit because you can't kill a heavy. You have to think before you attack a strong target. Bait them into a trap, let them think you ran off or something then finish them. Heavies have a 3 step process.
1. Get attention 2. Bait 3. Blow them freaking sky high with an RE
Seriously why don't you have remote explosives yet?
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
|
|
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
149
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 13:56:00 -
[31] - Quote
UPDATE, HOLY BALLS GUYS
Ok, I loathed the cloak, I couldn't NOT use it cause unlike other classes I can't take getting hit from another cloaked scout waiting for me, which forced me to use it, and even with the cloak I couldn't kill heavies. Well, things of changed, A LOT.
First of all, thanks for the kind words and for Lightning xVx for showing me some things. I would say it was one part learning some things and one part gear and SP shortfalls.
Some lessons I have learned for my scout brothers
1. Don't waste advanced suits til you have complex modules, don't waste proto suits until you have complex everything 2. Understand however, that losing ten 12K suits, is equal to five 37K suits, is equal to one proto suit. * The sooner you start taking chances with expensive suits, the sooner you start REALLY learning hit and run tactics and stop dying so often. 3. Having a tanked scout will let you die slower, having speed on a scout will let you run away and live to re-engage. * I have literally room through a room of enemies without taking a hit. 9.29 double enhanced kin kats is the slowest I would recommend to try this though. 4. Sometimes running solo is less stressful; you don't have to prove yourself to your squad and can focus on taking better chances. 5. Run with an alpha weapon and proto it. You don't have to use a proto just pick one for the bonuses. Shotgun, knives, hell even plasma cannon, what is the point of getting the positioning and jump on someone if you can't kill them. 6. Understand you will not come into where you want to be with a scout until you are at least 12 mil SP (provided that the entire 12 mil is in ONE suit and core skills, I have ONE proto weapon with no proficiencies yet). 7. Complex shields, get em'. Allows you to maintain speed and doubles your health. Game changer really. 8. You can learn all the fits and have all the people give you tips all day long, you have to learn some things for yourself. 9. When I started running advanced and proto I started losing money, but now that I have changed my play style and care a lot more about how I approach and fall back I die less and am starting to make money again. (Even running advanced 37K a suit) 10. Something that Lightning told me that I never really believed was that your most powerful ability was not to kill people but making them think you were going to kill them. It's true.
* I was at a point and I hacked it, and then proceeded to kill 10 people in a row, they started spawning in scouts, then moved to heavies and then just stopped coming. At one point, it got to hot and I had to run 100 meters out and regen, I wasn't in the area of where 4 people were for 2 minutes and no one hacked because they were scared I was still around. I ran back in after preparing and got a 4 kill streak in 2 secs because they had stacked up on the point trying to hack it together.
Don't give up, last night I ran 20/1 14/5 20/0 and 18/2.
Advanced G/1 Gal 2 complex shields 2 enhanced kin kats 1 militia PG upgrade 1 basic magsec 1 proto knives basic flux basic cloak
Also, send me a email and I will be happy to 1 on 1 if anyone wants some tips, understand that my training is from someone who is at 12 mil SP though. I know a lot of people have better, but if you still want tactics and you are higher than me I would be glad as well to run with you. |
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
149
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 14:02:00 -
[32] - Quote
Arx Ardashir wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Aszazel wrote:Thanks all for the words of encouragement, there is so much QQ on the forums, I figured I would be in for some sh!tty replies. The things I see Moody, George666, Jolly Roger and V do are crazy. I forget that 3 months of getting instakilled is not long enough to get gud, I need another 8 months.
I literally cry for new players. I hope CCP is serious when they state that they want to make it easier to skill into things earlier and cost less to use proto. The gap between advanced and proto is a little extreme. Why no 22, to 44, to 66. Cause the 22, 33, 66 of shield extenders is just one example of a pay to win game. I can only afford to get to level 3 on shields cause then is gets crazy expensive SP so I should use AUR. ThatGÇÖs not cool, otherwise I have to do double the amount of damage that a proto needs to do to kill me?
Making sure you are still playing the game. Scouts don't quit, we just respawn. XD He still plays. He shotgunned my face just a couple days ago, and with all the buffs scouts got (better bonuses, more slots, etc), I'm sure he's having a better time of it.
I actually rarely use shotguns, I got them to 4 and hopefully the hit detection will get fixed with them and I will use them more often but I love my knives, I like to look into your eyes as I kill you, one of the most difficult maneuvers I had to learn to pull off is to sprint up to the back of a running man and jump towards him so I can charge in the air and come down right off his back and be in range of knifing him. Of course, 1 out of 12 tries the target will pick that point to stop running or maybe run out of stamina or check his six and I will sail past him and be easy mode for murdering. I can't wait for this sidearm event to be over because the magsec isn't really the best weapon to run with knives, itGÇÖs only really been a finisher for me. |
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
149
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 14:10:00 -
[33] - Quote
Nocturnal Soul wrote:You can't just offer you isk like that It takes the meaning out of "can I haz isk", now like 1 comment said you can't just quit because you can't kill a heavy. You have to think before you attack a strong target. Bait them into a trap, let them think you ran off or something then finish them. Heavies have a 3 step process.
1. Get attention 2. Bait 3. Blow them freaking sky high with an RE
Seriously why don't you have remote explosives yet?
Thanks all for the positive comments
I have remotes and used to use them all the time (basic ones) however, advanced heavies can now live through them, and proto literally shrug them off. Also, heavies are EVERYWHERE now. But like I have stated, I have learned some things. Speed is absolute KING against heavies. I don't even need my cloak, I don't even need to weave, I can simply outdistance them in plain sight in ever since I started speed tanking. The range on the HMG is pretty balanced I say, when I was 8.01 I was dead, period, now that I run 9.29 I can outrange them before they can kill me. I can wear them down, and now with the knives at proto I can actually kill them before they turn around. I have dropped RE on my primary fit because I have been running advanced and need the cpu/pg for other gear, I included my fit a couple posts back. |
Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai
108
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 14:14:00 -
[34] - Quote
Glad to see you around in the corp chat. I had the same experience around your time.
Maybe we should squad sometime. The name's Snow Blooded. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 14:15:00 -
[35] - Quote
Your Offer of Resignation has been Rejected.
- Scout Community
Bang?
|
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1360
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 14:18:00 -
[36] - Quote
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aszazel wrote:Maybe I am still a noob, maybe its cause I am not in a heavy with a rail rifle like 90% of the people I have been coming up against in PUB matches. I watch the cool youtube videos of cyrius li moody and totally want to be a scouty lone wolf. I have put 90% of my 5.8 mil SP into scout suits, dropsuit upgrades, shotguns and pistols. And canGÇÖt do jack, I was following a heavy for 20 feet depressed about how I knew once I started firing I was going to be dead. Fired first round, took his shields out, he turns around faster than I can, fired second, half his armor is gone, I start strafing and jumping, before I get to fire the third, his (insert whatever weapon you want here, but usually a RR) kills me. I have basic shields and reactive plates, 99 shields and 168 armor. Lately its been poor detection and rubber-banding that have been helping speed me on to the clone tank. Other times, like 50% of the matches I played last night, (I guess everyone is trying to cap out really fast?) It was proto stomp after proto stomp, one murder taxi squad was flipping using a proto scanner. Anyho, who wants my isk, I think I am done.
Moody dies alot to he just doesnt show those vids like any good you tuber... Seriously ask mustard or nausea they will tell you the life of the scout it to die alot, unless your roner, with the proto and six kin 24 7, though I did smash his face in with my six kin 2 days ago.... Hi, swag... lmao jkjk, man you will get better with it, its just time.
Cyrius rage quits a lot too... |
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
149
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 16:05:00 -
[37] - Quote
I find running solo helps with not getting as stomped, scotty doesn't put as many squad vs random as much, so usually its random vs random. I still have to run squad if I ever want to bring it up to the next level, but until I am sitting at 17 mil SP I will take my victories were I can. |
Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
394
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 16:13:00 -
[38] - Quote
"RR heavies"... "murder taxis"... this guy is like what..?? -2 months behind on the current QQ
... a scout is complaining about a heavy now... ???? sounds legit
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
|
JDEZ09
Dark Side Alliance
45
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 16:44:00 -
[39] - Quote
The shield extender level 5 are pretty much the only ones worth using for sure, especially on a cal scout.
your gallente scout, however, is great at dampening.
Get your profile dampening to at least level 3 before using dampeners, but getting this skill to level 5, coupled with your scout bonus to profile dampening will multiply your results.
Get some dampeners in your suit also to stay under prototype scanners. You typically want to stay under 26 decibels but it should not be hard for a gal scout to get well under 20 decibels.
This is great, especially for my nova knife bros out there. The weapon doesn't show up on radar, so even when you are not cloaked (attacking) it is pretty important for nobody else to know that you are there. Think of the dampeners as your invisibility cloak for when you are not invisible (because you will never show up on anyone's radar) |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION
66
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 16:48:00 -
[40] - Quote
You go up, what is likely a proto heavy with 4x the SP you have, and you complain because he smites you for almost killing him? I've had so many of you little shotgun toting pansies give me so much trouble, it's a little stupid ._.
Mostly because after I kill one dancing shotgun princess, there are two more I have to deal with D:<
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
|
|
emm kay
Federal State Marines Canis Eliminatus Operatives
75
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 17:31:00 -
[41] - Quote
first lesson: cloak is required.
no ifs ands buts ors. cloak; get it now.
2nd lesson: when cloaked, slow and steady wins the race. this means you never sprint with a cloak. ever. This makes you more visible than a gallente hugging a tree :-). usually 1/2 walking speed is enough to keep you well hidden.
3rd lesson: weapon. weapon. weapon. choosing the correct weapon usually determines your tactics on the battlefield. from your previous posts i'm guessing you use either rail rifle or shotgun. I'll explain both. Railguns will typically let you make the most out of range. you will have to find places when cloaked that your enemy won't easily find you. for me this is usually on top of crates and on ledges. after you have found a good place to perch, you sit and wait. If it takes more than 60 secs for an enemy to pop out, then move on. if it doesn't, slaying is relatively easy. while cloaked, put the centered do on their head, tap R2 to change to rail and shoot them dead. shotguns require CORE skills more than anything on today's battlefield. the sciencce seems simple; run up behind them and shoot, right? well no. shotguns take speed to operate, which is why if you want to fit one you'll need advanced kinetic katalyzers. atleast 2. you'll then enter what's known as speedy gonzales mode, where you can run much faster than any other scout. when approaching someone with a shotgun, I found the easiest way to slay is aim for the mid-back section, jump, and fire. this will make sure that your first shot is to the head. always. once you have fired the first shot, never hesitate. shot over and over. often, that headshot will only get heavies to 50% health, so you need to keep shooting.
cloaks are a great way to take out tanks. Tanks have lower visibility than most infantry, so you can move faster when taking down a tank. this is just a tidbit, I can usually take down a tank singlehandedly if i run up to a tank, cloaked, and toss some REs on it (REs are sticky now, so throw the ON the tank ).
--
You called, sir?
|
Scheherazade VII
398
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 17:58:00 -
[42] - Quote
Aszazel wrote:Maybe I am still a noob, , HOLY BALLS
use cheap suits and get good at it, I made almost 40 kills in a 11k suit, I think it's 12k now but I can get over 20 kills. Find groups and get behind them
yesterday on my schecter 666 account i got behind and killed 4 molon labe with 1 clip (on domination where A is on the hill where people camp on the roof all game), I should have been filming but it was late into the game and they were winning so I didn't record from the start, 2 were repping and the other 2 were heavies so I had the advantage but still, 4 guys in one foul swoop, sounds like a wild friday night right? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3290
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 18:23:00 -
[43] - Quote
You guys should read his post, he edited it to update his experience.
Congrats man! And I'm glad you stuck around. It feels really good to go beast mode!
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Level 3 Forum Warrior
|
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
153
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 19:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:You guys should read his post, he edited it to update his experience.
Congrats man! And I'm glad you stuck around. It feels really good to go beast mode!
Thanks, I am amazed at the last 4 or 5 posts, it's like they didn't even read the opener, but whatever, its advice, and they are trying to help. lol, I especially like how they keep saying I am a qq'ing shotgun scout when I don't even use them.
I wouldn't call it beast mode, but it certainly feels better to be over a 1 KDR on most matches. I don't really agree or want to see people going 40 something's because that means there are some people having a truly horrible experience and I don't think dust is long for a game like that. I usually try to send an email to the lowest scorers (on both teams) and see if I can't help em out.
|
Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1197
|
Posted - 2014.04.07 19:30:00 -
[45] - Quote
My one scouting tip for fighting heavies: Hit and run tactics. Period. Use the geometry to your advantage. they trying to hold a door? shoot them in the back and run out the door you came in before they can return fire. repeat(use your minimap to keep an eye on their heading) until they die because without a logi, their regen is slow as hell.
you'd be surprised just how many heavies you can take down with bursts of fire over time instead of full auto for two seconds.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |