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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:29:00 -
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My idea if we get a respec was to go Min Scout / Heavy (Would've been Assault, but I dont see the benefit the Assault offers over the Scout) I'm curious, how will people fit it? 2 Low, 3 High doesn't leave much room for modules.
Fitting it like a Glass Cannon was my initial idea, 3 Damage Mods, 2 Kin Cats (Or one Kin Cat, one Plate)
Corporation: Fatal Absolution
Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
9896
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:32:00 -
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Minmatar heavies:
If you're going to use a shotgun heavy, at least use that one. Please.
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
332
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:34:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Minmatar heavies:
If you're going to use a shotgun heavy, at least use that one. Please.
Hm, does anyone know what the Sprint Speed of the Min Heavy is? 4.05m/s is its walk speed.
Corporation: Fatal Absolution
Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:44:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:Fitting it like a Glass Cannon was my initial idea, 3 Damage Mods, 2 Kin Cats (Or one Kin Cat, one Plate)
You're on the right track. I was punching the math on 2x Damage Mods, 1x Shield Extender, 1x Kin Cat, 1x Armor Rep (or plate if I have a Logibro). A bit more effective than 3x Damage Mods.
The Minmatar Heavy is definitely the weakest heavy give the current state of the metagame though... it'll lose flat out to any other Sentinel. On the bright side, it's decent against most Light Weapons and deals well with Scrambler Rifles.
I see it more as the "squad Sentinel", so you can actually keep up with the Assaults and Logis if you're running with buds. I'm speccing into it anyway.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1372
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:54:00 -
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Minmatar & Caldari Commando > Minmatar heavy
Caldari commando can reach 698 shields, and still have dmg bonus to RR.
Drop it like its hat.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4123
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:55:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Minmatar & Caldari Commando > Minmatar heavy
Caldari commando can reach 698 shields, and still have dmg bonus to RR. Minmatar commandos are minmatar heavies.
I am your scan error.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1698
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:02:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Minmatar commandos are minmatar heavies.
I'm pretty sure he meant Minmatar Commando > Minmatar Sentinel.
Setting aside the fact that a Minmatar Sentinel would chew up any commando toe-to-toe, I'd say he's mostly correct.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1314
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:05:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:My idea if we get a respec was to go Min Scout / Heavy (Would've been Assault, but I dont see the benefit the Assault offers over the Scout) I'm curious, how will people fit it? 2 Low, 3 High doesn't leave much room for modules.
Fitting it like a Glass Cannon was my initial idea, 3 Damage Mods, 2 Kin Cats (Or one Kin Cat, one Plate)
Unless you have aspirations to be a Masshole full time the Minmatar Assault is dead.
The Assault class in general is dead except for niche like that... a couple Amarr SCR, couple Minmatar Massholes.. Otherwise Scouts, Logi will be better at the job Assault does on the battlefield...
As far as i can tell the CPM's and Dev's are trying to make the Assault into something totally different in DUST and it's gonna obsolete the entire class out of competitive play in DUST. |
Supernus Gigas
Star Giants
316
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:27:00 -
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THE FIST OF RUST
Prototype Minmatar Sentinel
Three Complex Myrofibril Stimulants
Two Complex KinCats
Use an HMG to melee with your fist.
With Maxed Bonuses and Modules you get:
619.21 MELEE DAMAGE
7.44 m/s SPRINT SPEED
Note: You can switch out one of the KinCats for a Cardiac Regulator. You'll sprint a little less, but you'll be able to sprint farther, more often, and have plenty of stamina for Melee.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1372
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:41:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Minmatar & Caldari Commando > Minmatar heavy
Caldari commando can reach 698 shields, and still have dmg bonus to RR. Minmatar commandos are minmatar heavies.
True.
I meant sentinel!
Drop it like its hat.
CCP - Working hard on the (d)evolution of Dust 514 since 2013.
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Orion Sanjeet
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
39
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Posted - 2014.02.23 18:44:00 -
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Supernus, about your signature, instead of dirtying your meat grinder why not just chug a Quafe, the vitamin enriched and carbonated supplement for ingesting human. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
360
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:30:00 -
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really looking forward to the minny heavy. basically its the old B-Type from chromo and prefer the more manouverability of it.
Rolling with the punches
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
332
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:35:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Minmatar heavies:
If you're going to use a shotgun heavy, at least use that one. Please.
At first I thought this sounded good (Yeah crazy right ) But then I remembered the Burst HMG, which is basically a 'Heavy Shotgun' (Something KingThunderBolt would probably like) with more range, sounds meaner but with the downside of overheating quickly and being horrible for group work.
I think the Minmatar Sentinel coupled with a Burst and some Damage Mods / Proficiency will be the class that can push points the hardest, and will most likely be the hard counter for quick pesky Scouts.
Does anyone know how many shots are fired with each Burst?
Corporation: Fatal Absolution
Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
76
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:42:00 -
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im good with the burst . hard to take on more the groups of 3 but can be done . 45rd burst 15.8 damage each plus 35% damage . 2 burst on other heavys . can 2 shot any proto heavy with head shot . 156% extra damage plus the 35% from prof and 2 damage mods . the minny heavy will be a assaulter heavy pushn sprint speed of 8 . will be a great bull rusher |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2014.02.23 20:13:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:pushn sprint speed of 8
That's with 2x Kin Cats, I'm assuming? I'm always wary of not having a rep in my lows...
OP: For your reference, without equipping Kin Cats, a suit's run speed is always 40% faster than it's walk speed. So for Minmatar Heavy, it'll be 4.05 walk 5.67 run, base.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
332
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Posted - 2014.02.23 20:42:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:pushn sprint speed of 8 That's with 2x Kin Cats, I'm assuming? I'm always wary of not having a rep in my lows... OP: For your reference, without equipping Kin Cats, a suit's run speed is always 40% faster than it's walk speed. So for Minmatar Heavy, it'll be 4.05 walk 5.67 run, base.
The fit I'm trying to create will most likely be a PC fit where we'll have Triage Hives on the ground and Logis with reps to back me up, or if there isn't a good Logi, or any Logi about, it'll be a fit that allows me to quickly push through and break the enemies defense and go down in a blaze of glory
I wouldn't bother using Reppers in PC, chances are if you get so badly damaged to the point where you have to take cover and rep, you're better off suiciding and spawning back in with full health and ammo.
7.43m/s is the Sprint Speed with two Complex Kin Cats + The Kinetic Catylisation Bonus + Biotics Bonus + Penalties, thats assuming CCP round to the lowest number, its 7.44m/s if they round it up.
Corporation: Fatal Absolution
Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1700
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Posted - 2014.02.23 20:56:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:The fit I'm trying to create will most likely be a PC fit where we'll have Triage Hives on the ground and Logis with reps to back me up
Got it, makes plenty of sense.
I haven't given half a crap about PC in quite a while (IGÇÖm almost exclusively FW these days) which is why it seemed odd to me. I have to plan on being surrounded by... varying levels of competence.
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Regnier Feros
Immortal Guides
36
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Posted - 2014.02.23 21:01:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Minmatar heavies:
If you're going to use a shotgun heavy, at least use that one. Please. At first I thought this sounded good (Yeah crazy right ) But then I remembered the Burst HMG, which is basically a 'Heavy Shotgun' (Something KingThunderBolt would probably like) with more range, sounds meaner but with the downside of overheating quickly and being horrible for group work. I think the Minmatar Sentinel coupled with a Burst and some Damage Mods / Proficiency will be the class that can push points the hardest, and will most likely be the hard counter for quick pesky Scouts. Does anyone know how many shots are fired with each Burst? 45
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