Pages: 1 :: [one page] |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2611
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:01:00 -
[1] - Quote
So we have the Templar set from the EVE online collectors box
Im suprised it hasnt been released on its own for DUST players to buy
Anyways this is what was in it if you went for the box
Pre-order Bonus - Templar Uplink - Basic - 10 spawns
Templar Assault Templar Logi Templar Heavy - Sentinal
Templar Laser Templar Scrambler Templar Scrambler Pistol
So basically what you got was the 3 racial suits all at standard level and the basic racial weapons with the racial equipment
It is missing the commando/scout/pilot suit and any other racial weapons like heavy weapons/sidearm/knives etc
If CCP wants us to spend money on AUR wouldnt it be a good idea to release sets like this?
Something unique and collectable plus they are useful to have
You could have all 4 races done and each set with different colour scheme like the Templar set has
Gallente - Federation set Minmatar - Tribal set Caldari - State set Amarr - Templar set
Good money maker for CCP, useful stuff to use and collect but also it gives players BPO to use and try out to see if they like which ever weapon and race
Intelligence is OP
|
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
279
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:12:00 -
[2] - Quote
BPOs break the game, blah friggity blah bulls*hit people like to spout about the economy.
Meanwhile, I've been doing FW for the past few days and only 1 match have I gotten more than 3 items from salvage when they are under 50 clones remaining because they are all running starter fits to keep costs down (they have been putting rail rifles on them, though, so I have a decent collection of those now). And, 90% of what I get is Militia, 9% Standard, .8% Advanced, and .2% Proto, give or take a few tenths.
Starter fits destroy the theoretical economy too everyone. Either make them unmodifiable, or lock them out if you have X amount of isk or SP (though isk seems more reasonable).
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
|
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
959
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:20:00 -
[3] - Quote
CCP is done with BPOs, they are not releasing more.
Something about it breaking the economy (Implying it even dents it vs the clusterflock district locking has caused)
Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running.
Delt for CPM1
|
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
1064
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:25:00 -
[4] - Quote
ResistanceGTA wrote:Starter fits destroy the theoretical economy too everyone. Either make them unmodifiable, or lock them out if you have X amount of isk or SP (though isk seems more reasonable). The ISK limit seems reasonable?... this is the quality of people we get in the DUST community, people who can't even see how to circumvent even the simplest of artificial restrictions. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3149
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:26:00 -
[5] - Quote
BPOs are no longer on sale. CCP decided they don't like them.
The ones we have now are it.
I would have loved a Minmatar equivalent of the Templar set though. I'd have happily shelled out another 300mil.
No.
|
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
281
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:39:00 -
[6] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Starter fits destroy the theoretical economy too everyone. Either make them unmodifiable, or lock them out if you have X amount of isk or SP (though isk seems more reasonable). The ISK limit seems reasonable?... this is the quality of people we get in the DUST community, people who can't even see how to circumvent even the simplest of artificial restrictions.
I understand you can easily bypass, just buy a bunch of your fancy sh*t, but, making it SP wise is unwarranted. I know plenty of people with 30+ mil SP that are broke due to what they do (ADS pilots, Proto Scouts, idiots who bet on the dumbest of things). How would you do it? Just say, "oh, you have 20 mil SP, no starter fits, even though you don't have a dime to your name"? You have to have some level of fallback. Make it absurdly low <1,000,000, or something that most people wouldn't be willing to do.
No fallback=a real game over, which is not what Dust needs now.
Yea, you can borrow money, or get paid to.. to do whatever it is PC corps pay people to do (I assume it involves baking pies or something), but not everyone has that option. RandomJoe who plays solo, doesn't visit the forums, and is in a starter corp, but plays regularly is just making it by with 25mil SP and like 800,000 in his wallet because he's so so. Dafuq he supposed to do if he has no starter fits to fall back on?
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2612
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:40:00 -
[7] - Quote
The excuse thats its breaking the economy is pure and utter BS
Frankly 1 pub game can give me from 150k to easily 500k or even more if im lucky and that can pay for 3/4 fully decked proto suits, now we also have the LP store which means i can get proto suits for 200LP and 8k which is super cheap but depending on how many wins you get in FW and what the LP reward is it means you may only be able to buy 2 with LP
PC payout of 2mil can get me so much but if i lose more than i get in payout im at a loss
Essentially proto shouldnt even be used in pubs, the payout alone shouldnt cover it
Intelligence is OP
|
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3448
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:43:00 -
[8] - Quote
While they no longer make BPOs, there was a this little bit that made the bi-weekly feedback thread:
Swapping BPO Suit Race for AUR
CCP's comment was: Status: Interesting discussion. This is something we'll have a chat to the CPM about.
So, talk to the CPM or add your voice to the thread. In theory you could buy a Templar code or an old scout/etc. BPO when the market opens from a player, then pay X AUR to get it changed to the race you want (I'm curious if the cost would be the same as a suit was prior? You know that inflation...)
CCP keeps out "new" BPOs. People get to switch races on suits. It'd be nice to have a similar arrangement for weapons, but that's probably asking too much.
Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
|
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
281
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:46:00 -
[9] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:The excuse thats its breaking the economy is pure and utter BS
Frankly 1 pub game can give me from 150k to easily 500k or even more if im lucky and that can pay for 3/4 fully decked proto suits, now we also have the LP store which means i can get proto suits for 200LP and 8k which is super cheap but depending on how many wins you get in FW and what the LP reward is it means you may only be able to buy 2 with LP
PC payout of 2mil can get me so much but if i lose more than i get in payout im at a loss
Essentially proto shouldnt even be used in pubs, the payout alone shouldnt cover it
I think most people agree that its not breaking the economy, mainly because there isn't one to speak of.
And, if you fight for the Caldari, the LP store is only so useful. 3 losses for a proto suit at level 0 ain't gonna fly.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
|
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
1065
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 13:50:00 -
[10] - Quote
ResistanceGTA wrote:I think most people agree that its not breaking the economy, mainly because there isn't one to speak of.
And, if you fight for the Caldari, the LP store is only so useful. 3 losses for a proto suit at level 0 ain't gonna fly. If there wasn't an economy everyone would be running around in proto suits. |
|
The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
112
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 14:07:00 -
[11] - Quote
I love my BPOs . I am OK with CCP not offering any more BPOs but everyone should keep the ones we have. |
Horizen Kenpachi
Kenpachi's Castle
188
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 14:18:00 -
[12] - Quote
Im not spending a penny until i get a bpo so it looks like il never spend a penny on this game, have money coming out my arse but nothing worth spending it on aurum items are pointless once u lose them their gone i want something i can show for my money
Hit me with your nerf bat.
|
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2704
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 14:37:00 -
[13] - Quote
It does not help the economy, just because it is not as gamebreaking as pc does not mean it should be allowed
Templar BPO(375Mil)
EVE Pilot
I feed off your tears
|
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
282
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 14:40:00 -
[14] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:I think most people agree that its not breaking the economy, mainly because there isn't one to speak of.
And, if you fight for the Caldari, the LP store is only so useful. 3 losses for a proto suit at level 0 ain't gonna fly. If there wasn't an economy everyone would be running around in proto suits.
Yea, we have money, so, kind of an economy, but it is just us, self contained. The big deal is effecting the established EVE economy. CCP has pretty much already stated we dust players are bad with money (the changes to clone packs were due, in part, to our inability to understand that people were spamming them for a net loss continuously, or something like that). We buy things from NPCs by definition, not other players, so there is no exchanging of money from one person to anothr for a good, for services on occasion, but not goods (except code trading, which is the only economic thing that really occurs). When that trading thing, which was supposed to have occurred forever ago now, finally comes to fruition, we will have an economy where players determine the price, not CCP. And when EVE pilots start making the goods, then we'll actually be connected.
And when we can trade, BPOs will 'devalue' player made items, as they never run out. That's also why CCP is looking at changing BPOs to create X number of copies of an item a day instead of being unlimited (in which case, having 3 Dragonfly Scouts and a Dren shall come in handy for me).
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
|
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1079
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 14:47:00 -
[15] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So we have the Templar set from the EVE online collectors box
Im suprised it hasnt been released on its own for DUST players to buy
Anyways this is what was in it if you went for the box
Pre-order Bonus - Templar Uplink - Basic - 10 spawns
Templar Assault Templar Logi Templar Heavy - Sentinal
Templar Laser Templar Scrambler Templar Scrambler Pistol
So basically what you got was the 3 racial suits all at standard level and the basic racial weapons with the racial equipment
It is missing the commando/scout/pilot suit and any other racial weapons like heavy weapons/sidearm/knives etc
If CCP wants us to spend money on AUR wouldnt it be a good idea to release sets like this?
Something unique and collectable plus they are useful to have
You could have all 4 races done and each set with different colour scheme like the Templar set has
Gallente - Federation set Minmatar - Tribal set Caldari - State set Amarr - Templar set
Good money maker for CCP, useful stuff to use and collect but also it gives players BPO to use and try out to see if they like which ever weapon and race
CCP Please release this. We are stocked up in Boosters and need something else to Buy. Besides, all these ISK for Templer Set And all these lotto is too much of a hassle. I'd rather pay the money and get what i want. It's on E-bay and stuff, why not just release it on PSN?! |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2616
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:20:00 -
[16] - Quote
1 set for each race, all suits and weapons with there racial piece of equipment, BPO at basic level only
CCP couldnt lose with this
Intelligence is OP
|
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
930
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:25:00 -
[17] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:I think most people agree that its not breaking the economy, mainly because there isn't one to speak of.
And, if you fight for the Caldari, the LP store is only so useful. 3 losses for a proto suit at level 0 ain't gonna fly. If there wasn't an economy everyone would be running around in proto suits. Most people are dude.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
|
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
834
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:25:00 -
[18] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP is done with BPOs, they are not releasing more.
Something about it breaking the economy (Implying it even dents it vs the clusterflock district locking has caused)
what economy? Buying boosters and aurum are the only economy we have.
Who wants some?
|
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3037
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:34:00 -
[19] - Quote
Darken-Soul wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP is done with BPOs, they are not releasing more.
Something about it breaking the economy (Implying it even dents it vs the clusterflock district locking has caused) what economy? Buying boosters and arum are the only economy we have.
They are building the DUST market. When they stopped selling BPOs that said it was one step in preparing for the coming market.
// Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
|
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
834
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:38:00 -
[20] - Quote
Reav Hannari wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP is done with BPOs, they are not releasing more.
Something about it breaking the economy (Implying it even dents it vs the clusterflock district locking has caused) what economy? Buying boosters and arum are the only economy we have. They are building the DUST market. When they stopped selling BPOs that said it was one step in preparing for the coming market.
they are still selling bpos. In fact they just put them on sale.
Who wants some?
|
|
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3037
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:39:00 -
[21] - Quote
Darken-Soul wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP is done with BPOs, they are not releasing more.
Something about it breaking the economy (Implying it even dents it vs the clusterflock district locking has caused) what economy? Buying boosters and arum are the only economy we have. They are building the DUST market. When they stopped selling BPOs that said it was one step in preparing for the coming market. they are still selling bpos. In fact they just put them on sale.
I'm at work and can't look right now. What did they just put on sale?
// Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
|
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
834
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:45:00 -
[22] - Quote
Reav Hannari wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:CCP is done with BPOs, they are not releasing more.
Something about it breaking the economy (Implying it even dents it vs the clusterflock district locking has caused) what economy? Buying boosters and arum are the only economy we have. They are building the DUST market. When they stopped selling BPOs that said it was one step in preparing for the coming market. they are still selling bpos. In fact they just put them on sale. I'm at work and can't look right now. What did they just put on sale?
check your e mail. The templar set went down to $100 from $150.
Who wants some?
|
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3037
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 16:52:00 -
[23] - Quote
Darken-Soul wrote:check your e mail. The templar set went down to $100 from $150.
The Collector's Edition BPOs were probably locked in before they decided to start removing BPOs from the market.
// Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
|
CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
42
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 17:04:00 -
[24] - Quote
Just wanted to say that it's refreshing to see so many players agreeing that BPOs are no threat to the "economy". My thoughts exactly.
As Cyrax Servius pointed out, a lot of people run proto, so there's not much "demand" for standard level gear anyway. And since, as Takahiro Kashuken noted, it's easy to replace 3+ proto fits (more if you're running advanced suits with some proto gear or proto suits with mostly advanced gear) per pub match, there's almost zero incentive to run anything else once advanced+ level gear is available, unless you're a glutton for pain and kamikaze every spawn.
The way I think of it is that basic gear is for new players, primarily, or to fill gaps in fits where most of the gear outclasses the suit. If an infinite supply of standard (ie, unremarkable) gear will make players happy and help retain new ones, I'm all for it.
Note: I just got into advanced suits (Gallente scout and Amarr logi) so I tried out the AUR proto variants and HOLY SHNIKES. There is no comparison. Even rocking the advanced suits with proto weapons and a mix of adv/proto gear, I easily compete two to three time better than I did before. Brokerib is 100% correct.
Have you seen my baseball?
|
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
836
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 17:06:00 -
[25] - Quote
Reav Hannari wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:check your e mail. The templar set went down to $100 from $150. The Collector's Edition BPOs were probably locked in before they decided to start removing BPOs from the market.
just be careful these aren't protected by Sony. CCP can change or remove them on a whim.
Who wants some?
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2619
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 19:32:00 -
[26] - Quote
Darken-Soul wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:check your e mail. The templar set went down to $100 from $150. The Collector's Edition BPOs were probably locked in before they decided to start removing BPOs from the market. just be careful these aren't protected by Sony. CCP can change or remove them on a whim.
But the vehicles BPO they removed never came in a PSN package or owt
If it was done by CCP like they did with the Templar set i doubt they would be altered tbh
Intelligence is OP
|
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2618
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 20:10:00 -
[27] - Quote
I'm still thinking about buying one and putting the BPOs on my Amarr alt and start running it as a main for a while.
I GÖú Kittens.
|
NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
122
|
Posted - 2014.02.18 20:20:00 -
[28] - Quote
Horizen Kenpachi wrote:Im not spending a penny until i get a bpo so it looks like il never spend a penny on this game, have money coming out my arse but nothing worth spending it on aurum items are pointless once u lose them their gone i want something i can show for my money Dito I find it shameful that CCP consider BPOs which are NOT ABOVE STANDARD to ruin the economy when we ALL HAVE STARTER FITS = BPOs... CCP want cash? Bring back BPOs, some of us liked to collect them to support this project, obviously DUST has become a MEGA SUCCESS (with your Average of 4K Players... Go look at Online stats for CoD, BF, Halo Etc) , therefore they nolonger need our $UPPORT
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
|
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2633
|
Posted - 2014.02.19 12:40:00 -
[29] - Quote
We already have starter fits, i would prefer to be able to replace them with unique suits instead like i do with my Templar suit which is red & gold
Intelligence is OP
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 :: [one page] |