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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:37:00 -
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What does CCP hate the Gallente and Amarr?
Amarr:
Uplinks
Minmatar:
Remote Explosives
Proxy mines
Repair Tools
Gallente:
Active Scanners
Caldari:
Nanohives
Nanite Injectors
Cloaks
Based on the Gallente and Amarr combat doctrines what new equipment do you think would be good to add to each? |
Ripley Riley
355
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:39:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Minmatar:
Remote Explosives
Proxy mines
Repair Tools
The **** is a proxy mine and where can I buy some?
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8303
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:41:00 -
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Hopefully the shield generator will belong to either Amarr or Gallente, and we get another equipment to give to the race that still only have one. At which point, the logis should have bonuses to 2 of their race's equipment (excluding cloak); so Caldari logi should have nanohive and injector bonus, Minmatar logi should have bonus to repair tools and remote explosives, etc.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1988
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Texs Red wrote:Minmatar:
Remote Explosives
Proxy mines
Repair Tools
The **** is a proxy mine and where can I buy some?
It's a proximity mine and they're in the market place?
Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
963
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:45:00 -
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Hate is a silly word in this context. Especially when Scanners are OP right now and Uplinks are the bread and butter of competitive battles.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2719
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:45:00 -
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Aren't stasis webifiers Gallente technology? Those would be good for making vehicle traps.
Gallente also use sensor dampening but our passive sensors are already extremely short.
Since we lack capacitors in our vehicles so the Amarr are missing their electronic warfare technology.
Time to make up some new technology that is DUST only.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
3129
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:50:00 -
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do you really need to split proxies and remotes? That's like saying a triage hive and nano hive are different pieces of equipment when they're just a variation of one piece of equipment.
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Ripley Riley
355
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:55:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:It's a proximity mine and they're in the market place?
I don't see anything under Equipment > Proximity Mines.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
823
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Posted - 2014.01.22 17:07:00 -
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amarr LAZOR trip wires. place it on a doorway and it acts like the lasers out of resident evil and slices you up,
gallente shield wall - you hold this in your hand and once activated nanites swarm the user creating a temperary armor based coating around the user. this totally imobilises the user until deactivated or depleted. single use at all levels. good for absorbing a grenade blast.
amarr drop beacon - alternate version to the uplink. this creates a short duration drop beacon which allows players to spawn in above it at altitude and drop in. (only usable in the open)
gallente salvage drone - takes up an equipment slot but doesn't do anything (until we get working drones). this increases the chance of gaining salvage at the end of a fight by a small amount based on contribution
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1502
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Posted - 2014.01.22 17:11:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:do you really need to split proxies and remotes? That's like saying a triage hive and nano hive are different pieces of equipment when they're just a variation of one piece of equipment.
Its more comparable to AV Nades vs Locus Grenades. Yeah, I would split them up. They may look the same, but they function differently enough.
Yours Truly,
Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2719
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Posted - 2014.01.22 17:11:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:amarr drop beacon - alternate version to the uplink. this creates a short duration drop beacon which allows players to spawn in above it at altitude and drop in. (only usable in the open). unlimited spawn count but time to use it is limited before its goes poof
Interesting concept.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:09:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Aren't stasis webifiers Gallente technology? Those would be good for making vehicle traps.
Gallente also use sensor dampening but our passive sensors are already extremely short.
Since we lack capacitors in our vehicles so the Amarr are missing their electronic warfare technology.
Time to make up some new technology that is DUST only.
Gallente use statis webs but they are actually Minmatar.
Gallente could have some kind of sensor jammer equipment, which could have 2 variants. One that suspends IFF at a very short range so you can not tell who is enemy or ally. The other removes all icons from the mini-map in a medium range. Both would have to be a deployable equipment otherwise it could just be horribly abused.
Then what about a recon drone (sort of like Star Wars Battlefront), that you could use as a quick way to scout out a dangerous area and maybe a weak gun on it too. It would have a time duration on it so you can't use it forever and while using it your body is vulnerable (because you are piloting your drone and not defending yourself).
The Amarr could have a kind of launcher that could shoot a projectile that creates a negative energy field, draining HP from equipment or sucking up ammo. Perhaps draining stamina too?
Another idea would an equipment that a tight cone effect that increased the spread of enemy shots. Down side would be that you can't both shoot and keep the effect going.
Thoughts? |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4155
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:15:00 -
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Because Uplinks and Scanners are more used than Remotes and Rep Tools.
Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
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Havaru Fox
Golden Empire of EvE
0
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:20:00 -
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what is the problem?
you got armour suits that you can get from the shop.
and without checking it... cant you buy FW plates as well? |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1688
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:21:00 -
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We had the Plasma Rifle, Scrambler RIfle, and Laser rifle long before Combat and Rail Rifles.
Equipment will fill in in time
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Damage Efficiency
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Korvin Lomont
497
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:We had the Plasma Rifle, Scrambler RIfle, and Laser rifle long before Combat and Rail Rifles.
Equipment will fill in in time
Yeah and every single of these are outshined by the new weapons ;/ |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1688
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:31:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:We had the Plasma Rifle, Scrambler RIfle, and Laser rifle long before Combat and Rail Rifles.
Equipment will fill in in time Yeah and every single of these are outshined by the new weapons ;/
If you're expecting the first iteration of new weapons to be properly balanced against the old, you're in for a long series of disappointments.
1.8 Sentinels
Damage Efficiency
Effective HP
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2733
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:36:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:The Amarr could have a kind of launcher that could shoot a projectile that creates a negative energy field, draining HP from equipment or sucking up ammo. Perhaps draining stamina too?
Another idea would an equipment that a tight cone effect that increased the spread of enemy shots. Down side would be that you can't both shoot and keep the effect going.
Anti-stamina to slow everyone else down? It could be an interesting short term effect.
Tracking disruption is Minmatar? I can definitely see this in vehicle warfare.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:37:00 -
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Havaru Fox wrote:what is the problem?
you got armour suits that you can get from the shop.
and without checking it... cant you buy FW plates as well?
Those are modules and suits, I am talking about the stuff that goes in the equipment slot. Those ones the logis have more of than everybody else.
It seems to me that equipment has been created in more of a "hey, this is cool" manner rather than actually having a pre-set list of equipment for each race that challenge and balance one another.
Also if you look at racial ideologies the Caldari are information warfare and the Gallente are counter information warfare, so (racially speaking) shouldn't the active scanner be Caldari? |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1995
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:37:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Aren't stasis webifiers Gallente technology? Those would be good for making vehicle traps.
Gallente also use sensor dampening but our passive sensors are already extremely short.
Since we lack capacitors in our vehicles so the Amarr are missing their electronic warfare technology.
Time to make up some new technology that is DUST only.
Pretty sure webs are Minmatar tech in Eve. |
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:07:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Aren't stasis webifiers Gallente technology? Those would be good for making vehicle traps.
Gallente also use sensor dampening but our passive sensors are already extremely short.
Since we lack capacitors in our vehicles so the Amarr are missing their electronic warfare technology.
Time to make up some new technology that is DUST only. Pretty sure webs are Minmatar tech in Eve. I would be for amarr/gallente to maybe get special grenades? Also, deployable jammers or sensors might be amarr?
Jammers are caldari
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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:35:00 -
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Okay so jammers are caldari. What about a Gallente equipment you put down that boosts passive scan radius and precision within a certain area, say 15 meters?
Or perhaps a remote scanner? Set it down and it acts like a passive scanner, downside would be that it probably shows up on everybody's mini-map. |
Xer0 Zexeroth
Raskil Militia
11
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:28:00 -
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Last time I checked nanites were gallente tech and proxy and remote explosives are essentially the same thing so...
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Unless your leg just got chopped off. Then you would be significantly weaker.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1992
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:33:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:It's a proximity mine and they're in the market place? I don't see anything under Equipment > Proximity Mines.
They're listed under remote explosives IIRC.
Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
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Ripley Riley
355
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:55:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:It's a proximity mine and they're in the market place? I don't see anything under Equipment > Proximity Mines. They're listed under remote explosives IIRC.
Was trying to make the point that he listed remote explosives AND proximity mines, as if they were two separate pieces of equipment.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1668
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:58:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:What does CCP hate the Gallente and Amarr?
Amarr:
Uplinks
Minmatar:
Remote Explosives
Proxy mines
Repair Tools
Gallente:
Active Scanners
Caldari:
Nanohives
Nanite Injectors
Cloaks
Based on the Gallente and Amarr combat doctrines what new equipment do you think would be good to add to each?
Give the Gallente drones and have the fill a role like scout/logistics/utility/combat etc
As for the Amarr well...
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1310
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:07:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:It's a proximity mine and they're in the market place? I don't see anything under Equipment > Proximity Mines. They're listed under remote explosives IIRC. Was trying to make the point that he listed remote explosives AND proximity mines, as if they were two separate pieces of equipment.
Mechanically, they are.
Now if, say, were there flux remote explosives and he listed them separately, I might have a problem with it.
But all uplinks behave the same, all nanohives behave the same, all scanners behave the same. The only differences are the exact numbers. Triage hives is close, but not quite, particularly considering that they usually also do ammo too.
If there was an activatable proxy to muddy the waters, the situation might be different.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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