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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.11.25 00:02:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Beeeees wrote:Every time you say that ScR has no downsides God kills a kitten.
Has one downside, and it's not that bad when you consider how powerful this weapon is. Even with the downside I would say SCR >= AR (They are almost equal, with the balance tipping slightly for the SCR) OH and considerably high fitting requirements. OH makes the ScR a bit tough to use on non Amarr assaults, and the fitting needs make fitting tank mods considerably more difficult. And, it's semiauto. I feel lowering the firecap (max ROF) could be done to reduce effectiveness by turbo controllers, it's a non factor in weapon effectiveness. It only be there for the group with turbos, because I really doubt you guys can spam R1 11 times every second. Even assuming 6 shots a second, a good guess I would think, means a DPS of 540 against shields, but a mere 360 on armor. The charge shot also eats a fair bit of heat, so that combo is really iffy. Miss either the follow ups or the charge, and your liable to OH and be spotted.
You don't need a turbo controller to get the scrambler to some silly ass speeds, compared to other guns...
The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
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Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.25 00:11:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles.
Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? 1) TTK is too low. 2) The AR and ScR are almost entirely to blame. 3) Soon, we'll have two more OP Rifles to complain about. Have a look around. Which primary weapons are people using? The smart merc prefers the all-powerful, all-purpose Rifle. Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? - Shotty Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? - Sniper Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? - Shotty. Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? - How many weapons NEED to be ADS? Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? - Lazors.
Lmfaooo Ar and scr winall.The Ar is still top because of 0 drawbacks |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Even with the downside I would say SCR >= AR (They are almost equal, with the balance tipping slightly for the SCR)
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:SG - Works well, if you're not in a scout
LR - Is an underpowered POS and should not be compared to any other weapon
Mass Driver - Takes little to no aiming, so you are rewarded with lowered performance
AR's, and this is coming straight from CCP, are supposed to be the general purpose bastards that you bring to any engagement you aren't sure what to bring in.
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles.
TTk is too low with the rifles, and only with the rifles. Have you ever been instakilled by a laser, mass driver, shotgun, hmg or even a sniper? (assuming you are not in a paper thin scout suit). A maxed out proto weapon might kill you extremely fast if you are in it's optimal but it is nothing compared to a STANDARD rifle!!!
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:07:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles.
Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? 1) TTK is too low. 2) The AR and ScR are almost entirely to blame. 3) Soon, we'll have two more OP Rifles to complain about. Have a look around. Which primary weapons are people using? The smart merc prefers the all-powerful, all-purpose Rifle. Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? - Shotty Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? - Sniper Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? - Shotty. Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? - How many weapons NEED to be ADS? Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? - Lazors. Ok, this is a troll. At first you say the laser is a piece of ****, then you say it benefits the most from AA (which is too high, signifying that it is indeed a good gun, if it even did benefit the most from AA). You also say a sniper has a faster TTK than a ScR and AR a range. Maybe at extreme range, but thats not even an argument because thats out of the rifles' range. You also say the shotty has a faster TTK at close range and at the hip. This is laughable, because it takes skill to use a shotty, which many rifle advocates lack...
Uhh...
No.
The laser rifle benefitted hugely from the AA, but it's not enough.
Just like the addition of the red dot benefitted hugely the laser, but it's not enough.
AR's do 30% damage at 70 meters, and then it drops even faster.
Snipers have more DPS at that point.
It takes as much skill to use a shotty as it takes to get in close and personal.
If you manage to do that, it's as easy as aiming, which rifles require too.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:08:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Even with the downside I would say SCR >= AR (They are almost equal, with the balance tipping slightly for the SCR)
This is bullsh!t and you know it.
Do I?
Because I have both at proficiency IV and it's my favorite gun 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.11.26 20:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Beeeees wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Even with the downside I would say SCR >= AR (They are almost equal, with the balance tipping slightly for the SCR)
This is bullsh!t and you know it. Do I? Because I have both at proficiency IV and it's my favorite gun
You have prof V in both... no wonder you want them to stay OP....
The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
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