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Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 540	Posted - 2013.10.25 20:59:00 - [1] - Quote Is the new flavor of the month armor tanking? <.<...Lol I did it two months ago when it wasn't cool. But no seriously. Who bright mind did this start with? You do know there's such a thing as mass drivers right? After realizing most of the enemy team was running Gallente Armor Tanking Gear, I pulled out a Standard MD with Complex mods and laid into them. My WP/Kills jumped. I know very well about the mobility of the Gallente suit and how OP it feels but it seriously has major weaknesses that make me question why would it end up as a flavor of the month?
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 326	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:03:00 - [2] - Quote You do know that is kinda the point, each suit has its strengths and weaknesses, Shield tanks are totally wiped out by flux grenades.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 540	Posted - 2013.10.25 21:04:00 - [3] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: You do know that is kinda the point, each suit has its strengths and weaknesses, Shield tanks are totally wiped out by flux grenades. I know it's the point and that's EXACTLY why I don't get the flavor of the month deal. Besides it's armor-tanking with speed, it's pretty norm.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4216	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:14:00 - [4] - Quote I too armour tanked before it was cool. Running counter fits to take them out is the smart thing to do. I also suspect the proliferation of armour suits will decrease after the new rifles come out, as they look like very solid weapons and both deal more damage to armour than shield.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 923	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:25:00 - [5] - Quote I armor tanked 3-4 month before uprising a.k.a. chrom pure slow ass logi with an MD, so you my friend havent experienced how hard it was to armor tank when everyone could run marathons around you.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 162	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:05:00 - [6] - Quote I armor tanked from the beginning, when my Fatbros and I were actually feared.
Cosgar ParagonX 6480	Posted - 2013.10.25 23:14:00 - [7] - Quote Since 1.4 shields took an unnecessary hit when TTK drastically decreased. Modules like shield rechargers/energizers and regulators are completely useless with their designed purpose- burst tanking and hit-and-run tactics. Faster kills/deaths mean less downtime between fights and with the current base shield delay and recharge rate values, it's better to just stack extenders and plates for the biggest buffer instead of a better self sustainability. Having the most commonly used light weapons damaging shields over armor doesn't help the case either. Either TTK needs to be substantially increased (preferably by rescinding the 10% damage buff in Uprising) or dropsuit base shield recharge rate/delay and shield recharger/regulator/energizer modules need a buff.
toasterwaffles Hostile Acquisition Inc 3	Posted - 2013.10.27 19:06:00 - [8] - Quote How much armor are we talking about
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 416	Posted - 2013.10.27 19:11:00 - [9] - Quote Actually I used to shield tank all the time, as they have better regen (even with my min logi at lvl 5), and are way more resistant than armor. But now I armor tank because I have to go up against PIE in FW, which uses all Amarr weaponry, and a SCR Rifle and LR will eat through your shields without a second though. So I guess you can blame PIE?....
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 178	Posted - 2013.10.27 19:17:00 - [10] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Is the new flavor of the month armor tanking? Nope, just people looking to survive that extra half of a second longer. Only took me a day to abandon my first proto suit for CQC in favor of a much weaker, MUCH cheaper suit. I can die ten times for the same financial hit as my proto, while giving up maybe two or three kills. I'm at peace with the trade-off.

toasterwaffles Hostile Acquisition Inc 3	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:25:00 - [11] - Quote I armor tank with a proto sentinel heavy suit. I have 1039 armor and 456 shields with a proto freedom assault hmg
toasterwaffles Hostile Acquisition Inc 3	Posted - 2013.10.28 00:05:00 - [12] - Quote toasterwaffles wrote: I armor tank with a proto sentinel heavy suit. I have 1039 armor and 456 shields with a proto freedom assault hmg Typo^^^^^ I have about 1059 armor and 467 shield, over 1500 hp, I survived a rail turret direct hit
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 674	Posted - 2013.10.28 06:49:00 - [13] - Quote Armor hardener module? Passive or Active. It will be quite the sight to see mercs activating their mods before engaging the enemy.
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 52	Posted - 2013.10.28 07:01:00 - [14] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Is the new flavor of the month armor tanking? Nope, just people looking to survive that extra half of a second longer. Only took me a day to abandon my first proto suit for CQC in favor of a much weaker, MUCH cheaper suit. I can die ten times for the same financial hit as my proto, while giving up maybe two or three kills. I'm at peace with the trade-off. Honestly, I play much better in my ADV suit with MLT/Basic fittings than in my Proto, even against Proto opposition.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4292	Posted - 2013.10.28 07:03:00 - [15] - Quote eerm... you realize every suit is capable of armor tanking right? Thanks to the buff it got even Caldari suits can armor tank lol Don't feel special, I've been armor tanking since closed beta
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4292	Posted - 2013.10.28 07:05:00 - [16] - Quote toasterwaffles wrote: toasterwaffles wrote: I armor tank with a proto sentinel heavy suit. I have 1039 armor and 456 shields with a proto freedom assault hmg Typo^^^^^ I have about 1059 armor and 467 shield, over 1500 hp, I survived a rail turret direct hit You won't survive 1 and a half proto nade though. Funny.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 752	Posted - 2013.10.28 07:08:00 - [17] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Is the new flavor of the month armor tanking? <.<...Lol I did it two months ago when it wasn't cool. But no seriously. Who bright mind did this start with? You do know there's such a thing as mass drivers right? After realizing most of the enemy team was running Gallente Armor Tanking Gear, I pulled out a Standard MD with Complex mods and laid into them. My WP/Kills jumped. I know very well about the mobility of the Gallente suit and how OP it feels but it seriously has major weaknesses that make me question why would it end up as a flavor of the month? Ive been armor tanking since Open Beta, its nothing special, it just is a whole lot better then before the fix to armor plates.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1186	Posted - 2013.10.28 08:12:00 - [18] - Quote I've armor tanked since chrome, get on my level.
Chad Michael Murray NECROM0NGERS 116	Posted - 2013.10.28 09:48:00 - [19] - Quote I've always armor tanked except for the old Type-II days. Granted I'm a heavy but yeah... stuck to Gallente suits on non-heavy days. :)
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1310	Posted - 2013.10.28 09:51:00 - [20] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: I've armor tanked since chrome, get on my level. I've armor tanked since the beginning of the closed beta. Get on my level.

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1332	Posted - 2013.10.28 11:20:00 - [21] - Quote That's because there are a couple with armor tanking and the whole tanking system, currently. 1) Players assume the higher numbers are better which is 100% false from shields you get more HP per 1 point than you do 1 point of armor, you get around 1.3 HP per shield HP when counting for all the damage modifiers of both styles. To put into perspective lets say I told you I will give you 1000 Yen for 500 USD ignortant of the conversion factor this looks like a good deal but in reality 1000 Yen is worth far less than 500 USD. 2) CCP has yet to fix the damage modifiers against armor from explosives which are to high and sometimes glitchy. 3) Shield tankers dual tank rather than shield tank, and unlike EVE, dual tanking is loads better than tanking your style purely. Now Armor tankers can also dual tank but because of low shield repairs and few High slots a dual tanked Armor suit is far less effective than a dual tanked shield suit. Overall I believe there needs to be an rework of dropsuits and their mechanics. The modules are fixed but the suits aren't, for example a Caldari Assault suit without mods has more HP than a Gallente suit without mods because the Caldari suit has the same number of shields as the Gallente has armor, and like I previously said shields have more HP, survivability, per point than Armor.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 542	Posted - 2013.10.28 11:28:00 - [22] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: You do know that is kinda the point, each suit has its strengths and weaknesses, Shield tanks are totally wiped out by flux grenades. amarian suits with md and fluxes are funny
Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1602	Posted - 2013.10.28 11:37:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Actually I used to shield tank all the time, as they have better regen (even with my min logi at lvl 5), and are way more resistant than armor. But now I armor tank because I have to go up against PIE in FW, which uses all Amarr weaponry, and a SCR Rifle and LR will eat through your shields without a second though. So I guess you can blame PIE?.... You're welcome :D
Cosgar ParagonX 6723	Posted - 2013.10.28 12:02:00 - [24] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Anyways, if the Scouts ever become FOTM again, I'm going to laugh E3 build
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 423	Posted - 2013.10.28 13:07:00 - [25] - Quote I don't always armor tank... But when I do; I kick a**


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