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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:17:00 -
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Rail Part of KaalakiotaGÇÖs Stahl line of weaponry, the rail rifle is a fast-firing precision weapon designed for field operations where penetrative power and range are paramount. Developed using the corporationGÇÖs proprietary microscale technology, the rail rifle solves oversaturation issues endemic to sustained fire electromagnetic weaponry. However, its greater range and power are offset by a smaller magazine capacity and lower rate of fire than similarly classified weapons. The foregrip design aids stabilization and remains cool to the touch even during prolonged discharge where the barrel can exceed mean operating temperatures. Featuring a reinforced subassembly and compact, heavy-barrel design, the rail rifle is the premier fully automatic microscale weapon available today.
Combat A gas-operated, short-barreled weapon, the combat rifle is a semi-automatic weapon well-suited to both short and medium range combat. Classified as a light support weapon, it is typically employed in target-rich environments where the high volume of fire produced enables operators to engage multiple targets in rapid succession, whilst the weaponGÇÖs extended range keeps the operator just beyond the threat threshold of most standard assault rifles. Its advanced bullpup configuration reduces weapon weight and improves maneuverability making it the ideal cross-over weapon for urban and field combat. The modular design has more practical advantages as well in that itGÇÖs cheap to maintain and easily replaced if damaged, making it one of the most reliable weapons in service today.
Skills/bonuses for these were the same as whats given for the assault rifle.
Pulled from SiSi....no real info on them other than that.
Let the speculation begin..........are these coming tomorrow? What are the stats going to be? |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:21:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Rail Part of KaalakiotaGÇÖs Stahl line of weaponry sorry but Killzone 3 had to be said Interesting
They're not coming tomorrow, CCP couldn't finish them on time, check the patch notes. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2050
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:21:00 -
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Im calling it now that people will QQ about the rail rifle since it was be a breach that doesnt suck and have more range than a wet cough |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:26:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Im calling it now that people will QQ about the rail rifle since it was be a breach that doesnt suck and have more range than a wet cough
Where there is bloodshed
there is QQ. |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:27:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Rail Part of KaalakiotaGÇÖs Stahl line of weaponry sorry but Killzone 3 had to be said Interesting They're not coming tomorrow, CCP couldn't finish them on time, check the patch notes.
Hope dies last... |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:29:00 -
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Basing on these descriptions, the Rail is NOT a breach rifle and the Combat is NOT a burst rifle.
The Rail rifle sounds like a sweet precision tactical weapon... in other words, my kind of gun. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:33:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Basing on these descriptions, the Rail is NOT a breach rifle and the Combat is NOT a burst rifle.
The Rail rifle sounds like a sweet precision tactical weapon... in other words, my kind of gun. Yeah, but that combat rifle sounds pretty sweet. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:36:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Basing on these descriptions, the Rail is NOT a breach rifle and the Combat is NOT a burst rifle.
The Rail rifle sounds like a sweet precision tactical weapon... in other words, my kind of gun. Yeah, but that combat rifle sounds pretty sweet.
I agree. Let's get ready to see a lot of alt characters testing new weapons as soon as they are released
Can't wait for that... |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:39:00 -
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I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:44:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance. Gallente Hybrid Weapons do +10% against shields -10% against armor. Caldari Hybrid weapons do -10% against shields +10% against armor. |
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:47:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance. Gallente Hybrid Weapons do +10% against shields -10% against armor. Caldari Hybrid weapons do -10% against shields +10% against armor.
Im hoping more for the combat rifle being winmitar and then the rail being caldari |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:47:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance.
Pretty sure the Combat rifle will eat armor alive. Bullpup gas-operated weapon should be projectile technology and we already know they work fine against armor.
Rail... might be the same as sniper rifles (they are actually rail rifles, if I'm not mistaking)... |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:48:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance. Gallente Hybrid Weapons do +10% against shields -10% against armor. Caldari Hybrid weapons do -10% against shields +10% against armor. Im hoping more for the combat rifle being winmitar and then the rail being caldari
Combat rifle will be Minmatar and Rail is Caldari. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:48:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Basing on these descriptions, the Rail is NOT a breach rifle and the Combat is NOT a burst rifle.
The Rail rifle sounds like a sweet precision tactical weapon... in other words, my kind of gun. Nah CCP said this is how they would operate. I thought otherwise too but someone sourced-me. The Rail is long range Breach weaponry. And the Breach are sweet precision tactical weapons. They have the highest accuracy ratings.
The the combat rifle will be the burst. Burst has a slightly longer range than the AR, and has the highest DPS of the weapons, the combat rifle is a semi-automatic weapon well-suited to both short and medium range combat. Classified as a light support weapon, it is typically employed in target-rich environments where the high volume of fire produced enables operators to engage multiple targets in rapid succession, whilst the weaponGÇÖs extended range keeps the operator just beyond the threat threshold of most standard assault rifles.
So it's semi-auto yet has high volume of fire, sounds like burst. Also if you try the burst, it feels more like a support weapon for its sheer lack of killing power but it can definitely wound in one shot or pick off the weak. But that "suited for short range" is total BS, you do not want a Burst in CQC. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.10.08 04:57:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:[quote=Keri Starlight] Nah CCP said this is how they would operate. I thought otherwise too but someone sourced-me. The Rail is long range Breach weaponry. And the Breach are sweet precision tactical weapons. They have the highest accuracy ratings.
The the combat rifle will be the burst. Burst has a slightly longer range than the AR, and has the highest DPS of the weapons, the combat rifle is a semi-automatic weapon well-suited to both short and medium range combat. Classified as a light support weapon, it is typically employed in target-rich environments where the high volume of fire produced enables operators to engage multiple targets in rapid succession, whilst the weaponGÇÖs extended range keeps the operator just beyond the threat threshold of most standard assault rifles.
So it's semi-auto yet has high volume of fire, sounds like burst. Also if you try the burst, it feels more like a support weapon for its sheer lack of killing power but it can definitely wound in one shot or pick off the weak. But that "suited for short range" is total BS, you do not want a Burst in CQC.
I used to think that as well, but the rail rifle's description let me think of a long range weapon. I agree that the combat rifle might sound like a burst rifle, thinking again...
But if you ask me, it would be much cooler to have 4 completely different basic weapons (+ variants) instead of this "weapons that mimic other weapons" system. Sounds boring.
I'd rather have the rail rifle as a long range weapon (completely different from the Tac AR and the SCR) and the combat rifle as a badass unique weapon (it's not clear what it is from the description, but it actually sounds badass ). |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 05:01:00 -
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I imagine the Combat rifle firing and handling like a Mk 16/17 (SCAR). |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.10.08 05:12:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance. Gallente Hybrid Weapons do +10% against shields -10% against armor. Caldari Hybrid weapons do -10% against shields +10% against armor. I'm not sure about Projectile (Combat rifle)cause I'm seeing different stats from CCP but in game projectiles are said to do -4% against shields +4% against armor.
Here are the official percentages, as posted by CCP:
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/
Hybrid plasma weapons Assault Rifle, Shotgun, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol, unnamed heavy weapon +10% vs shields; -10% vs armor
Projectile weapons Sub-machine Gun, Combat Rifle, Precision Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun -5% vs shields; +10 vs armor
Laser weapons Scrambler Rifle, Laser Rifle, Scrambler Pistol, unnamed heavy weapon +20 vs shields; -20% vs armor
Hybrid rail weapons Rail Rifle, Sniper Rifle, Forge Gun, Magsec Sub-Machine Gun, Bolt Pistol -10% vs shields; +10% vs armor
Explosive weapons Swarm Launcher, Flaylock Pistol, Mass Driver, Remote Explosive -20% vs shields; +20% vs armor |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.08 16:20:00 -
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Perhaps some day we can get explosive bullets.....muahahah |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 16:22:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance. Gallente Hybrid Weapons do +10% against shields -10% against armor. Caldari Hybrid weapons do -10% against shields +10% against armor. I'm not sure about Projectile (Combat rifle)cause I'm seeing different stats from CCP but in game projectiles are said to do -4% against shields +4% against armor. Here are the official percentages, as posted by CCP: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/Hybrid plasma weaponsAssault Rifle, Shotgun, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol, unnamed heavy weapon +10% vs shields; -10% vs armor Projectile weaponsSub-machine Gun, Combat Rifle, Precision Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun -5% vs shields; +10 vs armor Laser weaponsScrambler Rifle, Laser Rifle, Scrambler Pistol, unnamed heavy weapon +20 vs shields; -20% vs armor Hybrid rail weaponsRail Rifle, Sniper Rifle, Forge Gun, Magsec Sub-Machine Gun, Bolt Pistol -10% vs shields; +10% vs armor Explosive weaponsSwarm Launcher, Flaylock Pistol, Mass Driver, Remote Explosive -20% vs shields; +20% vs armor
Yeah I'm really confused about that. Explosives come up as 130% against armor.
idkwtf s going on.
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Beforcial
REAPERS REPUBLIC
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:32:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance. Gallente Hybrid Weapons do +10% against shields -10% against armor. Caldari Hybrid weapons do -10% against shields +10% against armor. I'm not sure about Projectile (Combat rifle)cause I'm seeing different stats from CCP but in game projectiles are said to do -4% against shields +4% against armor. Here are the official percentages, as posted by CCP: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/Hybrid plasma weaponsAssault Rifle, Shotgun, Plasma Cannon, Ion Pistol, unnamed heavy weapon +10% vs shields; -10% vs armor Projectile weaponsSub-machine Gun, Combat Rifle, Precision Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun -5% vs shields; +10 vs armor Laser weaponsScrambler Rifle, Laser Rifle, Scrambler Pistol, unnamed heavy weapon +20 vs shields; -20% vs armor Hybrid rail weaponsRail Rifle, Sniper Rifle, Forge Gun, Magsec Sub-Machine Gun, Bolt Pistol -10% vs shields; +10% vs armor Explosive weaponsSwarm Launcher, Flaylock Pistol, Mass Driver, Remote Explosive -20% vs shields; +20% vs armor
Are these still valid numbers in today's update? Cause i would like to know why this data was not in game so far and why it continues to be absent?
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:44:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Im calling it now that people will QQ about the rail rifle since it was be a breach that doesnt suck and have more range than a wet cough This is why the ARs we have now are going to need to be re-balanced. The breach sucks, burst is inconsistent at best, the TAC AR is the only good sub variant while the standard beats all. |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
71
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:53:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:I am just hoping one of them will do more armor damage than shield damage. No weapons actually chew into armor at distance.
the rail rifle will do more damage to armor than to shields.
CCP has said already that hybrid weapons fall into to categories.
Rail Rifle= long range + 90% to shields and 110% to armor
Assault Rifle= short range +110% to shields and 90% to armor |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.10.08 23:01:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im calling it now that people will QQ about the rail rifle since it was be a breach that doesnt suck and have more range than a wet cough This is why the ARs we have now are going to need to be re-balanced. The breach sucks, burst is inconsistent at best, the TAC AR is the only good sub variant while the standard beats all.
They really really dont since they are all supposed to be pale imitations of the other races specialty I mean lets compare the tac rifle with the scrambler, scrambler has better damage, better firing rate, more range, larger clip with the only downside being the over heat while the tac just kind of sucks now which is fine since its not the gallente specialty
Oh and I want to toss this bit in here since its always overlooked, if turbo controllers were as wide spread as guys were complaining in the tacticals heyday then you would have full auto scrambler rifles ripping people apart since its heat build up is based on seconds and not shots fired, so yeah people can pull the trigger/click the button that fast |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2192
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Posted - 2013.10.08 23:09:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Basing on these descriptions, the Rail is NOT a breach rifle and the Combat is NOT a burst rifle.
The Rail rifle sounds like a sweet precision tactical weapon... in other words, my kind of gun. Nah CCP said this is how they would operate. I thought otherwise too but someone sourced-me. The Rail is long range Breach weaponry. And the Breach are sweet precision tactical weapons. They have the highest accuracy ratings. The the combat rifle will be the burst. Burst has a slightly longer range than the AR, and has the highest DPS of the weapons, the combat rifle is a semi-automatic weapon well-suited to both short and medium range combat. Classified as a light support weapon, it is typically employed in target-rich environments where the high volume of fire produced enables operators to engage multiple targets in rapid succession, whilst the weaponGÇÖs extended range keeps the operator just beyond the threat threshold of most standard assault rifles.So it's semi-auto yet has high volume of fire, sounds like burst. Also if you try the burst, it feels more like a support weapon for its sheer lack of killing power but it can definitely wound in one shot or pick off the weak. But that "suited for short range" is total BS, you do not want a Burst in CQC. I'am not sure about the combat rifle, though the burst AT is ideal for CQC because of it's large amount of damage in a short amount of time.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2013.10.08 23:31:00 -
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This thread was already done better here.
However, remember that this is the concept art for the Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle. |
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